Re: Ezee On loader on MF 135 tractor

[Dave M7040]

Re: Ezee On loader on MF 135 tractor

Continuing on, I have now found WSM for the MF135 on line for free.

It is on a French site so misleading but fortunately the manuals are in English.

Do you know what version your MF 135 is? There are Mark II and Mark III versions.

Post the frame serial number if you dont know and I will try and find the change points.

Dave M7040

 

[Leejohn]

Re: Ezee On loader on MF 135 tractor

Look at the loader valve the way it is plumbed , he has the in and out on the same side.


EDIT, He does not have in and out hoses on one side, but the PB fitting is plugged.

 

[shaeff]

Dave, I zoomed in on this pic "never saw a hydraulic connection like this"

I think it's an illusion, it's actually a bolt with a nut locking it in place. Best guess is that it's the pressure relief setting?

 

[Dave M7040]

Re: Ezee On loader on MF 135 tractor

Look at the loader valve the way it is plumbed , he has the in and out on the same side.


EDIT, He does not have in and out hoses on one side, but the PB fitting is plugged.

I am sorry but I am not understanding your point with the PB port being plugged. Could you please explain further.
In my mind the FEL valve is not feeding any other valve downstream.

Dave M7040

 

[Leejohn]

Re: Ezee On loader on MF 135 tractor

If the PB is plugged off oil can not pass on to next valve down stream. oil from work ports can only go to tank.

 

[Dave M7040]

Re: Ezee On loader on MF 135 tractor

If the PB is plugged off oil can not pass on to next valve down stream. oil from work ports can only go to tank.

That was my point, I don't think there is a valve downstream from the FEL valve. I certainly welcome your thoughts and perhaps I am overlooking some aspect of this....

Rather than have a valve like the FEL valve supply another valve through its PB port, the May Hill selector valve is going to send pressure to only one valve or circuit at a time.

Dave M7040

 

[Leejohn]

Re: Ezee On loader on MF 135 tractor

Yes that is right the selector is going to the loader valve. But the oil flow going into the valve is trying to go out the port he has plugged, the loop is stopping there. There is no oil flow out the hose he has hooked up if that is aPB fitting, oil well oil flow out that hose when loader valve is moved. All he has to do is remove the PB fitting and plug that port with a OC plug and all it is a plug with the right threads.

 

[Dave M7040]

Re: Ezee On loader on MF 135 tractor

I have managed one photo to load to the attachments page, we'll see if it loads.View attachment 525483View attachment 525482

Still....

Could you please post more photos of the FEL valve so we can see the other side, which is now away from the camera, and also from above looking down.

I would like to be able to see how the ports on the valve are marked.

Thanks

Dave M7040

 

[Dave M7040]

Re: Ezee On loader on MF 135 tractor

Yes that is right the selector is going to the loader valve. But the oil flow going into the valve is trying to go out the port he has plugged, the loop is stopping there. There is no oil flow out the hose he has hooked up if that is aPB fitting, oil well oil flow out that hose when loader valve is moved. All he has to do is remove the PB fitting and plug that port with a OC plug and all it is a plug with the right threads.

Leejohn

I hope stillatit is continuing with this loader installation.

I have re read your post about the PB and am thinking you may have a valid point that the PB is in some way involved. If the PB sleeve was installed and then no other valve connected to it down stream or beyond, thus raising the pressure inside the valve block in places where it should not be high and making the FEL valve difficult to use.

I stopped at the local hydraulic shop in my neighborhood today wanting to know if they knew what the symptoms would be if a PB port was installed and then plugged. They had not seen such an event but knew it would not be a good situation. People who are installing hydraulics and have real knowledge or good instructions do not say to themselves, lets do this wrong so we see what can happen.

Nimco wont provide any info on the FEL valve in question other than to say it was a proprietary valve sold only to Kubota and therefore expect no help from them.

In re reading Still's earlier posts he talked about the pressure line from the May Hill valve going to P2 on the Nimco valve. After rummaging around in NIMCO's site, I now see that P1 & P2 are the same "in" port just one is on the top of the valve body and the other on the side but they are interconnected.

I hope Still posts more photos of the Nimco valve so the location and other details of the PB port can be seen.

I keep saying this is going to be a minor thing when it is finally found.

Dave M

 

[Dave M7040]

Re: Ezee On loader on MF 135 tractor

Still...
Are you still at it? I hope so but I don't want to be working on a project you have given up on so could you please advise.

If you have moved on but would like the WSM and other info I have collected, send me a PM and I will send you a link to where I can put it for your access.

Dave M7040

 

[Leejohn]

Re: Ezee On loader on MF 135 tractor

I'm taking it that he got fixed. I can not believe the hyd shop could not tell you that if the PB fitting is plugged that the oil is hitting a iron wall.
Yes it would be nice if he would tell if fixed and how he done it. You see that a lot on here. I guess they want someone else do all the research for them.

 

[Dave M7040]

Re: Ezee On loader on MF 135 tractor

I'm taking it that he got fixed. I can not believe the hyd shop could not tell you that if the PB fitting is plugged that the oil is hitting a iron wall.
Yes it would be nice if he would tell if fixed and how he done it. You see that a lot on here. I guess they want someone else do all the research for them.

LeeJohn

I have assembled a lot of valuable material on MF135 tractors in my work on this problem.

This is material that you don't easily find with Google

It seems wrong to somehow just delete the files but I have my hard drive and external drive too full.

Do you have any suggestions.

Dave M7040

 

[Leejohn]

Re: Ezee On loader on MF 135 tractor

I think he said that he took it back off because he was done messing with it for now. Maybe he just hasn't had the time to get it back on. My self I think he got it fixed. I would wait until Monday then put your info on a disk and clear up the hard drives. Other then that it's a waiting game.

 

[PatrickS2222]

Re: Ezee On loader on MF 135 tractor

LeeJohn

I have assembled a lot of valuable material on MF135 tractors in my work on this problem.

This is material that you don't easily find with Google

It seems wrong to somehow just delete the files but I have my hard drive and external drive too full.

Do you have any suggestions.

Dave M7040

Is is an idea to start a separate thread and just post the info there so we can read it? It's got me puzzled and interested, although I'm only a novice with hydraulics - I keep to the straight-forward jobs only. I for one would enjoy reading through it :thumbsup: ... the subject of an external hydraulics capability on these tractors is something I've never encountered. I might learn something. :laughing:

 

[shaeff]

Re: Ezee On loader on MF 135 tractor

Is is an idea to start a separate thread and just post the info there so we can read it? It's got me puzzled and interested, although I'm only a novice with hydraulics - I keep to the straight-forward jobs only. I for one would enjoy reading through it :thumbsup: ... the subject of an external hydraulics capability on these tractors is something I've never encountered. I might learn something. :laughing:

Agreed. I don't even own a 135, but I'm still interested. I read as much as I can. Maybe one day I'll be able to help others as much as they've helped me!

 

[PatrickS2222]

Re: Ezee On loader on MF 135 tractor

Agreed. I don't even own a 135, but I'm still interested. I read as much as I can. Maybe one day I'll be able to help others as much as they've helped me!

I'm thinking much the same as you, and likely many others. The 3PL hydraulics set-up for 135s is very similar on many models - from 35s to 188s and probably several 200-series models, as well as the 3PL-equipped parallel Industrial models of the same era.

I know there's already a raft of useful info available, but it's on various sites. I'd love a thread on TBN - this site with such info - instead of another site. I don't read much on other tractor/machinery sites. :laughing:

Dave, I realise spare time is usually in short supply, it's by no means urgent, but please consider doing this for us. :thumbsup:

 

[Dave M7040]

Re: Ezee On loader on MF 135 tractor

I'm thinking much the same as you, and likely many others. The 3PL hydraulics set-up for 135s is very similar on many models - from 35s to 188s and probably several 200-series models, as well as the 3PL-equipped parallel Industrial models of the same era.

I know there's already a raft of useful info available, but it's on various sites. I'd love a thread on TBN - this site with such info - instead of another site. I don't read much on other tractor/machinery sites. :laughing:

Dave, I realise spare time is usually in short supply, it's by no means urgent, but please consider doing this for us. :thumbsup:

Patrick
Suggest a way to make the material available to others over a long period of time.

Usually what I see is a link to another cloud or file sharing service. The confusing part with a lot of the MF stuff is it was on a site in FRANCE with its description in french. It was only when I went past the French description that I found 300+ pages of English WSM
I don't want to be trying to manage a site on jumpshare so the link on the forum has somewhere to go.

I will put some effort into saving the material but I need to be told where and how to do it.

Dave M7040

 

[aczlan]

Re: Ezee On loader on MF 135 tractor

You should be able to attach it directly to a post here, I don't remember what the file size is but it's a fairly good-sized. That will let you attach a PDF.

Aaron Z

 

[Dave M7040]

Re: Ezee On loader on MF 135 tractor

You should be able to attach it directly to a post here, I don't remember what the file size is but it's a fairly good-sized. That will let you attach a PDF.

Aaron Z

Aaron

I am not certain how you would do that.
I am willing to get the files to you via my jumpshare and then you can put on a forum post if you are willing to do that.
Send me a pm with your email
Dave M7040

 

[aczlan]

Re: Ezee On loader on MF 135 tractor

Aaron

I am not certain how you would do that.
I am willing to get the files to you via my jumpshare and then you can put on a forum post if you are willing to do that.
Send me a pm with your email
Dave M7040

Done.

Aaron Z