Rear suspension air bags (air lift or firestone) ??

[cre10]

Personally, not I have never hauled a truck with TEEd suspension.

But then, I am smart enough not to!

You can continue to spout off and make yourself look more ignorant, but I am going to unsubscribe to this thread, as I have seen all the uneducated drivel regarding air bags I need to

Have a good night
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Ignorance. I've hauled with both. I ran isolated bags on a friend's truck before I teed mine on my trucks.

 

[roadhunter]

 

[RedNeckRacin]

cre-that' a cute pickup. Some of us has real air ride suspension on our trucks so keep blowing that hot air. I do have my class A so I'm not tooting my own horn. Just because it has worked for you, doesn't mean its the best way to do somethings. You might be wise enough to know the limitations but we always assume that the people on here are novice's until they demonstrate that they are not.

 

[FTG-05]

This thread is pure entertainment. Watching people act cocky even thought they clearly don't understand how air suspension works is hilarious. Even going to the point of bragging about spending money on additional parts that cause the system to not provide side to side stability. The only thing you did was spend time and money to defeat one of the main benefits of air bags. Congrats!

https://www.etrailer.com/Vehicle-Suspension/Firestone/F2071.html
Adjustable Air Pressure

The air pressure in your Ride-Rite springs can be adjusted manually, side to side, to compensate for off-center loads. A centered load improves the stability of your vehicle by reducing body roll.

To those of you with a tee can you control side to side stability, compensate for off center loads, or control body roll? Nope. congrats you just defeated many of the benefits of installing air bags on your truck. Time to brag about how smart you are, again.

Purchasing a air bag suspension kit to improve stability and safety when hauling $500
Purchasing a Tee that defeats one of the main benefits of air bag suspensions= $20
Braggin on the internet about how smart you are for installing a tee in your system= Priceless

LAffin.

Pretty much sums up my thoughts.

Except for laziness, I never heard the benefits of the tee for an air suspension system. Costs more money, doesn't work as well. What was the so-called upside again?

And for the record, I have the Firestone air bags that go on the outside of the frame rails on my F-350. Air schrader valves are mounted right to the airbag brackets. I can't remember the last time I had to mess with them. It's a tall truck, the last thing I want is to make any leans in sharp turns or corners - worse.

 

[scoutcub]

I'm kind of a rookie hauling little toy lawn tractors and toy backhoes around so I feel like I majorly screwed up installing a tee with my airbags :cool2: I'm just devastated.

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Hey Cre - :stirthepot:

See if you plumbed em separately, you could haul a real load, like such;



:laughing: Just kidding....I think you hit it on the head with post #110. Both are OK for different applications. I have hauled a slide -in camper in the past and like the independent capability....and you never know when you might have an off-balance load in the bed.....I've seen it with a load of gravel for one example.
Very nice team of toys you have there as well....

Entertaining thread, to say the least...I just spent a good 30 minutes reading the debate mushroom.....

Just a little levity guyz....

 

[lostcreekranch]

If your big loads are always on trailers, and not on bed of the truck, I don't see why either way makes any difference. The trailer load is centered on either the GN ball in truck bed or on your rear BP hitch. An offset load on trailer would cause trailer lean but, would not impart an un-balanced load to the truck until trailer completely rolls over w/o disconnecting from truck.

In this situation you would need airbags on trailer.

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[cre10]

Hey Cre - :stirthepot:

See if you plumbed em separately, you could haul a real load, like such;

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:laughing: Just kidding....I think you hit it on the head with post #110. Both are OK for different applications. I have hauled a slide -in camper in the past and like the independent capability....and you never know when you might have an off-balance load in the bed.....I've seen it with a load of gravel for one example.
Very nice team of toys you have there as well....

Entertaining thread, to say the least...I just spent a good 30 minutes reading the debate mushroom.....

Just a little levity guyz....

I'm jealous! Nice Komatsu and awesome low pro trailer!

 

[coobie]

If your big loads are always on trailers, and not on bed of the truck, I don't see why either way makes any difference. The trailer load is centered on either the GN ball in truck bed or on your rear BP hitch. An offset load on trailer would cause trailer lean but, would not impart an un-balanced load to the truck until trailer completely rolls over w/o disconnecting from truck.

In this situation you would need airbags on trailer.

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I fully agree with your statement and that is the reason I used the tee valve.I only haul heavy on my 20ft. PJ trailer about 3-5 times per year and wanted the air bags installed to raise up the rear end of my 2006 Ford F-150 supercrew when doing so.I never haul heavy in the bed of my truck as I have a camper shell installed.I am pretty sure there will be this one individual who will be along shortly and criticize it.He shows up on my threads on a regular basis.He is somewhat of a passive/aggressive individual

 

[the old grind]

...I think you hit it on the head with post #110. Both are OK for different applications. I have hauled a slide -in camper in the past and like the independent capability....and you never know when you might have an off-balance load in the bed.....I've seen it with a load of gravel for one example. .....

Just a little levity guyz....

I agree it's a matter of application and IMO the debate should never have happened. Haven't lost a bit of respect for anyone on either side of the discussion.

I put air shocks (Gabriel) on my first Camaro ('71) to aid tire clearance. Since I was taking load off the leaf springs when raising the center-fill led to leaning & I went to separate-fill to minimize it. (Driving my 4th now, a '98 I've had for 11 yrs) I'd definitely want separate-fill with a top-heavy load such as a truck camper.

On my favorite bike ('80 FXEF) I started with separate-fill (S&Ws). If one lost pressure the ride was squirrelly when leaned over in turns if the road was bumpy or uneven. Switching to center-fill fixed that. (Still have that one but riding a newer model and miss the adjustable ride ...)

One could add a shut-off to each side of a center-fill setup (yeah, extra bucks you'd spend once) to keep them isolated when needed and open them to equalize when filling &/or loaded light. Alternately, metering ports in the lines could reduce swaying if not stability on sweeping turns. Oh, and the Gabriels had 3/16" line while the S&Ws lines are 1/8", not that it matters much.

Different 'streaks' for different freaks guys, & btw I had one of those dreams last night where I was the only one in my birthday suit. Freud says that goes with wishing I hadn't said something or other ... :confused3:

(Think I need my Ritalin today ...)

 

[bearskinner]

On my specific application, I have air bags on my 26.5' class C motorhome. Its a E450 chassis, dually. It has a huge slide out, and when sitting it leans slightly to the slide out side. With the slide fully extended(parked) it will obviously lean harder. It does have jacks to level and stabilize, but if I get somewhere late or move it a lot, I don't use the jacks. I can Control the lean by using the individual air lines to match the bias on this particular vehicle. I will run 90 lbs on the left and 75 on the right, and it sits and rides perfect. I also have individual air lines on my F250 and F150 for the same reason. I do not try to load something off balance, but you have a bit more adjustability with individual air lines. I think a tee in the lines is better than running down the road, grossly overloaded and swaying, or being a lo rider, but I prefer being able to adjust as I see fit per load as needed. I always check my tire pressure too. I use the rear lic plate upper mounting bolts for my air Schrader valves. they are together, and you can look at the way your vehicle sits as you add air. just my .02c worth of info, everyone needs to do what they feel is right for themselves.