Rear wheel weights vs filling tires

winston1 · Nov 17, 2010

Not trying to talk you into the liquid route. I understand your reasoning. I had a flat recently but being the cheap skate I am I patched my own tube. I do have tubes. Lot of folks here in east Texas do fill tires. I'm looking for traction and not loader ballast. I never have occasion to use my loader without an implement on the back and my loader stays off my tractor 50% or more of the time. I do gardening and mowing in tight situations and my loader is in the way. Have a quick hitch for implements so can change quickly. I will be interested to see your end result and amount of weight and how you mount it. :thumbsup:

careyo63 · Nov 17, 2010

I agree. This is the FEL. I use Reg. and knowing what it's capable of, Loosening the dirt with a BB and scooping it up with the Fel. is more realistic for a small compact. Doing any hard soil digging or heavey grading reinforcing it would be good Ins. from hopefully not breaking something on the tractor. I don't believe you have the HP. for that to happen after beefing up the frame like you are planning. And Yes Wheel weights are much easier to deal with

Carey

Gary Sweat · Nov 17, 2010

winston1 said:
Not trying to talk you into the liquid route. I understand your reasoning. I had a flat recently but being the cheap skate I am I patched my own tube. I do have tubes. Lot of folks here in east Texas do fill tires. I'm looking for traction and not loader ballast. I never have occasion to use my loader without an implement on the back and my loader stays off my tractor 50% or more of the time. I do gardening and mowing in tight situations and my loader is in the way. Have a quick hitch for implements so can change quickly. I will be interested to see your end result and amount of weight and how you mount it. :thumbsup:

I'm kind of the opposite in what I use the tractor for. I built the loader to level high spots that have formed over the years around my place but to do that I have to go a ways from my house to get the dirt I need. Also to clean up about 13 acres of woods so I can start mowing it and make it look nice. I've already found the loader to be handy in pushing small dead trees and scraping up under growth. I doubt the loader will ever come off the tractor unless I need to fix it or modify it. My problem is getting the tractor around through the trees and anything hanging off the back is making it harder to get around. I to just want traction.

Gary Sweat · Nov 17, 2010

careyo63 said:
I agree. This is the FEL. I use Reg. and knowing what it's capable of, Loosening the dirt with a BB and scooping it up with the Fel. is more realistic for a small compact. Doing any hard soil digging or heavey grading reinforcing it would be good Ins. from hopefully not breaking something on the tractor. I don't believe you have the HP. for that to happen after beefing up the frame like you are planning. And Yes Wheel weights are much easier to deal with

Carey

Nice looking rig. That is about the size and style I will someday move up to but I won't get rid of the YM1900. My dad gave it to me and my mom still asks how it's doing so I guess it will be with me till either me or it won't go anymore. At the rate the tractor is holding up I think it will be me.

I did manage to hit a buried rock and stopped the tractor dead in it's tracks. No damage to anything but I got very acquainted with the steering wheel

I was cutting down a high spot with the bucket about 3" in the ground with the differential lock on and a big grin till the rock showed me that was not a particularly bright thing to do

But it was fun

deepNdirt · Nov 18, 2010

Gary Sweat said:
Nice looking rig. That is about the size and style I will someday move up to but I won't get rid of the YM1900. My dad gave it to me and my mom still asks how it's doing so I guess it will be with me till either me or it won't go anymore. At the rate the tractor is holding up I think it will be me.

I did manage to hit a buried rock and stopped the tractor dead in it's tracks. No damage to anything but I got very acquainted with the steering wheel I was cutting down a high spot with the bucket about 3" in the ground with the differential lock on and a big grin till the rock showed me that was not a particularly bright thing to do But it was fun

Hey Gary, You might consider either building or buying a tooth bar for your loader bucket, having teeth on the bucket could really make the job go much smoother.....( Pun intended ) heh heh!

I don't have one but sure would like to :thumbsup:
Here is a couple of Pix of my 1700 at work, I use a ground pulverizer for finishing the soil just before seeding, Notice all the small holes made by the pins from the roller, these holes help to retain the seed.

Gary Sweat · Nov 18, 2010

deepNdirt said:
Hey Gary, You might consider either building or buying a tooth bar for your loader bucket, having teeth on the bucket could really make the job go much smoother.....( Pun intended ) heh heh!
I don't have one but sure would like to :thumbsup:
Here is a couple of Pix of my 1700 at work, I use a ground pulverizer for finishing the soil just before seeding, Notice all the small holes made by the pins from the roller, these holes help to retain the seed.

You have a much heavier duty loader than what I have. Looks good. What do you use to get the ground so flat? I haven't got the hang of back dragging yet or how to set the bucket just right for the depth I want so I wind up cleaning it up with a rake. Ok for small spots but not for anything bigger.

I do like the pulverizer. Would be nice for a 2 acre field I want to clean up and sow.

I'll look into either buying a tooth bar or making one. I'm thinking making one is one of those jobs I would regret soon after starting.

Roonabeck · Nov 20, 2010

Gary Sweat said:
Filled - Guessing about 80lbs per side on 22" tires.

I'm going to guess that adding 160 lbs will not make much difference for you (in a 1500lb? 2000lb? tractor), so even if you did fill the tires, you'd end up adding wheel weights in addition.

milkman636 · Nov 20, 2010

Every pound counts.

winston1 · Nov 20, 2010

Have successfully put 11 gallons of weak antifreeze/water solution in my 8.3-24 rice tires. Will probably be awhile before I have significant test results. This should weigh in at about 92 pounds per tire.

Gary Sweat · Nov 21, 2010

Roonabeck said:
I'm going to guess that adding 160 lbs will not make much difference for you (in a 1500lb? 2000lb? tractor), so even if you did fill the tires, you'd end up adding wheel weights in addition.

This setup is giving me the balance I need with the loader. I guess I need to take it off and try to weigh it. I don't know how to calculate the added weight it would have hanging off the 3pt. If I can figure out the weight it is giving me, then I should know how much to add to the wheels.