Recconendations for older diesel

[spitter]

6.9, 7.3,6.0,6.4,diesels are international haverster engines not ford engines . International Harvester rushed the 6.0 into production because ford wanted to be the first to meet the new pollution requirements. All led to a giant I sue you you sue me class action law suite. the 6.7 is a ford designed engine supposedly blueprinted off of the cummins design. Any diesel is going to cost you a lot more to keep running. I use to buy a new truck every couple of years .Not no more all they do is keep pileing on more sh-- to break .It's a truck . Not a 100,000 dollar china doll. Buy a good clean 5.9 or 7.3.and keep it running. Either in good shape will cost you 20 k. It still a lot better than 60 - 100 k. I have 300 ,000 miles and put 20 k in performance parts in mine. My boss has a 16 f 450 and we switch trucks every now and then and he says mine will out pull his any day. But that's what 20 k of the rite aftermarket parts will do. Oh yea I haven't had a truck payment in 15 years.:cool2::drink:

 

[Monster5601]

the 6.7 is a ford designed engine supposedly blueprinted off of the cummins design.

Any diesel is going to cost you a lot more to keep running.

The current Powerstroke was designed by AVL located in Austria with design offices also located in Plymouth, Michigan. AVL's engineers were able to orientate the V block design that allowed it to fit in a pickup while increasing the piston's stoke. This gave the Powerstroke an advantage over the Duramax.

I don't know what you mean by "a lot", but I find running diesel engines in my truck to be no more costly (+- a few bucks) than keeping my gas burning pickup running. Maybe in times past but not now. I simply follow the scheduled maintaince for all my vehicles, tractors too, and I don't have any issues with any of them. I also do not tinker under the hood which seems to be a common with folks that complain about issues.

 

[deserteagle71]

I don't know what you mean by "a lot", but I find running diesel engines in my truck to be no more costly (+- a few bucks) than keeping my gas burning pickup running. Maybe in times past but not now. I simply follow the scheduled maintaince for all my vehicles, tractors too, and I don't have any issues with any of them. I also do not tinker under the hood which seems to be a common with folks that complain about issues.

^ This has been my experience also.

I've had a 7.3 Powerstroke and am now on my second 5.9 Dodge/Cummins. (The first Dodge I traded off because it was a SRW and I needed a dually.) The ONLY problem I've had with any of the trucks was with the dually I have now - I had to install a water pump.

My heavy haulers used to be Fords with the 460 and GMs with the 454. 10 mpg empty and 7-8 mpg pulling a load. My diesels get 18 mpg empty - and 12-13 mpg with a load. The diesel will go over a mountain pass in 5th or 6th gear just loafing along whereas the gas engine over the same pass would be screaming at ~4,000 rpm in 3rd gear, holding up traffic. (Manual trannys only!)

 

[buickanddeere]

So what if the gasser downshifts and revs up? It isn’t going to explode , it is just increasing airflow . The diesel can’t rev faster so it has to use a turbo to increase airflow .

 

[Snobdds]

So what if the gasser downshifts and revs up? It isn’t going to explode , it is just increasing airflow . The diesel can’t rev faster so it has to use a turbo to increase airflow .

Why is it necessary any more? I live in Wyoming and have a lot of truks. In addition to my diesels, I have a ford Ecoboost that uses turbos, that never needs to rev past 2500 to make it's power. It drives an awful lot like a diesel in the way it makes and holds power.

No need to rev the piss out of a motor to just make power...

 

[deserteagle71]

So what if the gasser downshifts and revs up? It isn稚 going to explode , it is just increasing airflow . The diesel can稚 rev faster so it has to use a turbo to increase airflow .

I don't mind the downshifting and high revs as much as I do holding up traffic because the gas truck would pull the load of wood over the passes at only 25 - 30 mph max. The diesels easily maintain the speed limit pulling the same load - while getting 4-5 mpg better mileage. Look at a map and tell me how many gas stations - indeed, how many towns - you see between Burns, Oregon and Winnemucca, Nevada (250 miles). Actually, one of the things that convinced me to go diesel was having diesel pickups blow by me at speed pulling equally big loads while my truck struggled along at full power at 25 mph. There's just no way that 400 ft-lbs of torque can compete with 800 ft-lbs. And by the way, my heavy duty trucks, gas and diesel, were/are manual transmission so I do the downshifting.

 

[deserteagle71]

Why is it necessary any more? I live in Wyoming and have a lot of truks. In addition to my diesels, I have a ford Ecoboost that uses turbos, that never needs to rev past 2500 to make it's power. It drives an awful lot like a diesel in the way it makes and holds power.

No need to rev the piss out of a motor to just make power...

This is true! I have a 3.5 Ecoboost as my light duty run around "Sunday go to meeting" vehicle. Not only does that turbo engine make diesel-like power but the turbos make such a difference over the high mountain passes. Big difference in power in a gas engine at sea level and at 6 - 8,000 feet which is what most of the passes in Nevada reach.

 

[buickanddeere]

Why is it necessary any more? I live in Wyoming and have a lot of truks. In addition to my diesels, I have a ford Ecoboost that uses turbos, that never needs to rev past 2500 to make it's power. It drives an awful lot like a diesel in the way it makes and holds power.

No need to rev the piss out of a motor to just make power...

It isn’t a marine propulsion engine or a base load generator running at full rated power for months at a time accumulating 10’s of thousands of hours . That truck engine is a light duty application operating at a fraction of max power and max rpms for maybe 4000 hours max in a lifetime .
You are not going to wear out or blowup a gas pickup truck engine climbing a hill towing house trucker , boat or an old farm tractor .

 

[buickanddeere]

I don't mind the downshifting and high revs as much as I do holding up traffic because the gas truck would pull the load of wood over the passes at only 25 - 30 mph max. The diesels easily maintain the speed limit pulling the same load - while getting 4-5 mpg better mileage. Look at a map and tell me how many gas stations - indeed, how many towns - you see between Burns, Oregon and Winnemucca, Nevada (250 miles). Actually, one of the things that convinced me to go diesel was having diesel pickups blow by me at speed pulling equally big loads while my truck struggled along at full power at 25 mph. There's just no way that 400 ft-lbs of torque can compete with 800 ft-lbs. And by the way, my heavy duty trucks, gas and diesel, were/are manual transmission so I do the ]

Torque is not power . Horse power is what moves x pounds up to y height in z seconds . Force over distance during a known duration of time.
What year and model of gasser are you comparing to what year and model of diesel ? How much more does diesel cost than gasoline per gallon . What does a set of diesel injectors cost vs gas injectors ? How much more does the diesel cost up front ? Gassers don稚 suffer waxes up fuel filters in the winter either .

 

[Snobdds]

It isn’t a marine propulsion engine or a base load generator running at full rated power for months at a time accumulating 10’s of thousands of hours . That truck engine is a light duty application operating at a fraction of max power and max rpms for maybe 4000 hours max in a lifetime .
You are not going to wear out or blowup a gas pickup truck engine climbing a hill towing house trucker , boat or an old farm tractor .

No one is arguing that the engine will blow up.