Mowing Relocating an offset pull mower up front on a 425

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PTOuser

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Does anyone know the weight of the 48” finish mower or bush cutter? I’m wondering if it might be possible to move my 44”, 375 lb. Swisher mower (Swisher Mower & Machine Co.: T-44 Trailmower) to the front on a 425 by fabricating a mount welded to an attachment plate. Has anyone tried moving an offset mower up front?
 
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HA! I'm looking to try the same thing with my 44" swisher finish mower!

I'm willing to bet the PT attachemnts weigh more than the Swisher equivalent...even considering the motor on the swisher.

It should be no problem given the PTs 800# lift capacity. I bought an extra mounting plate with the tractor. Today I picked up a 2" receiver mount and hitch. Also picked up a big swivel wheel/tire assembly for the front of swisher. I think the rigid wheels on the side may cause problems (at least until they'r ripped asunder)--then I'll try something else.


If it works, I'll keep my ear to the ground for a used 60" in the future. :rolleyes:

Let me know how it goes for you!
 
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Someone on here posted a web site with a wheel set that looks like it would be a great fit to your mower.

ASC # 40563 Tire Kit

Add a quick attach plate and you have PT mower. It should work well.

Dale
 
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PTOuser said:
Does anyone know the weight of the 48” finish mower or bush cutter? I’m wondering if it might be possible to move my 44”, 375 lb. Swisher mower (Swisher Mower & Machine Co.: T-44 Trailmower) to the front on a 425 by fabricating a mount welded to an attachment plate. Has anyone tried moving an offset mower up front?

I was thinking about doing the something.

My Swisher 44 in mower has a 11 hp Honda on it, with electric start. It is the straight pull model. I just need to build a support bracket for the mower, and put some swivel wheels on the front, and it should work fine.

Has anyone used the hydraulic driven flail mower?

I have the 6 ft flail mower. I had tried it when my PTO was not running good, and it did not work so well. Once I put new hoses on it, I will give it a good test. I have put new blades on it, somewhere around 52. The two blades per chain, one is bent left, and one is bent right. looks like an upside down [ Y }. How it cuts flat, I don't know. It has a large hydraulic motor with three hoses, two for the motor, and a case drain.
 
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PTOuser said:
Does anyone know the weight of the 48” finish mower or bush cutter? I’m wondering if it might be possible to move my 44”, 375 lb. Swisher mower (Swisher Mower & Machine Co.: T-44 Trailmower) to the front on a 425 by fabricating a mount welded to an attachment plate. Has anyone tried moving an offset mower up front?
I saw a post and pictures where a guy mounted the 60'' MMM for a JD 455 on the front of his JD455.
 
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Red Zebra said:
HA! I'm looking to try the same thing with my 44" swisher finish mower!
Why do you want to do that?
I'd rather mount it off to the side so I can mow out over ditches and banks.
 
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LBrown59 said:
Why do you want to do that?
I'd rather mount it off to the side so I can mow out over ditches and banks.

Great idea!! I'm fabricating 2" hitch type system. I'll fab up some sort of L bracket to go between the tractor and mower mounts...that way I can mow straight on or add the L bracket to offset it a few feet. Thanks!
 
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Red Zebra said:
Great idea!! I'm fabricating 2" hitch type system. I'll fab up some sort of L bracket to go between the tractor and mower mounts...that way I can mow straight on or add the L bracket to offset it a few feet. Thanks!
I'd been toying with and idea to hang a self powered mower off the side of a tractor to mow out over ditches and banks with.
Later I was reading about front mowers so decided to adapt my idea to enable hanging the mower so you can hang it from the left side, right side or from the front by simply pulling a pin and rotating the mower from one position to another.
Also included in the plan is a 2 wheeled dolly to enable using the mower with any tractor or ATV.
Since the unit would be self powered and have its own dolly no hydraulics would be required so it would work with any tractor.
 
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LBrown59 &Red Zebra please post pictures of the mounts you engineer. I’d like to be able to use the Swisher upfront and retain the ability to offset the Swisher but felt that might be too complicated.
 
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PTOuser said:
LBrown59 &Red Zebra please post pictures of the mounts you engineer. I’d like to be able to use the Swisher upfront and retain the ability to offset the Swisher but felt that might be too complicated.

Monster PT garage is open for business!
Started work on it last night....lookin' good so far.;) Can't work on it again until tomorrow or later next week. Will upload pics later.
 
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Whatayaknow! I had a little time before we run to the airport and pick up one of my kids from summer camp.

The patient here is a 44" pull behind finish mower. I purchased for $200 bucks used about 8 mos ago to pull behind the riding mower. Works well and cuts as good as the JD.

I had an old receiver hitch from a '99 Malibu. I inverted it be the basis of a nose wheel. It fit perfectly. Also on the R side (facing the mower) the hith
tubing is open....I will use appropriate size tubing to reattach the pull arm either to the front of the mower or the side and continue to use it behind the JD when needed.

The idea of the hitch came to me while figuring out how to make a removeable nose wheel. Now I just remove the bolt and slide it out...reattach the pull arm and can get the JD going with it again.

Tomorrow or later this week I will fab the mount for the PT. The center of gravity is forward....in line with the engine. Will attach plates just behind the where the hitch is welded to the mower, then come up high enough to clear the motor.


More later.........
 

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Red Zebra said:
Whatayaknow! I had a little time before we run to the airport and pick up one of my kids from summer camp.

The patient here is a 44" pull behind finish mower. I purchased for $200 bucks used about 8 mos ago to pull behind the riding mower. Works well and cuts as good as the JD.

I had an old receiver hitch from a '99 Malibu. I inverted it be the basis of a nose wheel. It fit perfectly. Also on the R side (facing the mower) the hith
tubing is open....I will use appropriate size tubing to reattach the pull arm either to the front of the mower or the side and continue to use it behind the JD when needed.

The idea of the hitch came to me while figuring out how to make a removeable nose wheel. Now I just remove the bolt and slide it out...reattach the pull arm and can get the JD going with it again.

Tomorrow or later this week I will fab the mount for the PT. The center of gravity is forward....in line with the engine. Will attach plates just behind the where the hitch is welded to the mower, then come up high enough to clear the motor.


More later.........

$200 bucks!
That sounds like a great buy.
Looking forward to seeing this project connected to the PT.
 
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Anybody still interested in seeing this beast?....it's UUUUUGGGLLLLLLLYYYY!
But it works! Works well for the intended uses...over rough ground, edge of ditch, alongside the driveway (600ft each way), etc.

I got sick, then travled out of town for a week, and busy with work and my builders for the house....have not had much time for PT :( .

Anywho, I'll try posting pics later this week/weekend.
 
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Post some pics man ! We wanna see.
 
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Any updates on this thread. I would like to mow along our road and I need to reach further to one side. I could take it off of my two inch receiver attachment and then link to the finish mower. Maybe put a counter weight on the other side. Let's see some updates and discussion on this. I think even 18 inches of offset would help a lot. This sounds like an awkward setup so I need some input from those who made it work.
 
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Any updates on this thread. I would like to mow along our road and I need to reach further to one side. I could take it off of my two inch receiver attachment and then link to the finish mower. Maybe put a counter weight on the other side. Let's see some updates and discussion on this. I think even 18 inches of offset would help a lot. This sounds like an awkward setup so I need some input from those who made it work.

The set-up never worked well for me and I abandoned it. The front-tire kept getting hung up on rough areas of ground and it would cause the entire mower to lift and start turning/tilting at alarming angles. (the mower...not the PT425.) Probably the swivel mount I designed had too much play in it. The little pull behind stopped running anyway. And I no longer have the need since buying the finish-blade kit for the 48" brush cutter.
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Have you thought about using a little cheap-o push mower that you could offset like the PT boom mower? A small mower deck with a hydro motor that runs off the PTO would be interesting. Or just hooking up the pull-behind to the rear of the PT ......
 

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