chucko
Veteran Member
anyone ever use start fluid and a match to get a tire bead to set on a rim?
Repair/mechanic tricks and or tips?
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jimmer2880
Platinum Member
chucko said:
No, but I have seen wd40 & a match used before. Pretty-neat trick when trying to set a bead on a dinged up wheel.
Personally, I just put a good ratchet strap around the middle of the tread & start clamping. I've re-seated several mobile-home tires and golf-cart tires like that. Works like a champ.
patrick_g
Elite Member
jimmer2880 said:
And then if it backfires your squatting down next to the generator with an on fire mustard bottle in your hand.
A backfire will blow flame out of the air cleaner ( I assume but have never experienced) but the air intake on my generators (temporarily an exit port) is aimed down and nothing would be harmed. If the engine is turning over the inrush of air will suck the residual fire back inside and snuff it out.
If the direction of the back fire blast is unsafe, then your concern would certainly be extremely valid. In my specific instances, I don't think there is a problem.
I am careful to not have a gas jug near the scene, do this out doors, and yes I have a good sized extinguisher handy.
Pat
patrick_g
Elite Member
chucko said:
Baja off-roaders have been doing that and similar for decades.
I have used a rope and a stick to make a tourniquet for lack of a ratchet strap and still couldn't get one of six new tires to seal at the bead on a motorhome and had to resort to the fuel-air bomb method to get it mounted. Not for the faint at heart.
When you are out in the middle of nowhere and need to mount a tire, even with perfectly good wheels, the fuel-air bomb method is a life saver.
Pat
patrick_g
Elite Member
Skyco said:
Are you sure about the alcohol thing? Which alcohol(s)?
Pat
jimmer2880
Platinum Member
patrick_g said:
Please don't take this wrong... I'm just trying to be safe, not 'bashin you' (I sure do a lot of things which many would frown on)
The mustard bottle thing, you drop a couple of dribbles down the carb when the engine isnt' turning over, put the bottle down, then give it a crank. No fire-bomb mustard bottles here.
I have whitnessed 4-wheelers that back-fired out the carb, into the air box when someone was spraying ether (not me, I don't like the stuff) on the air-filter. What you say sounds good on paper. But, in practicality, when it was done with ether, the air filter was on fire.
Because the air was on-fire, the only way the engine was turning over, was by the starter (all the fuel in the air had already gone boom before it got to the cylinder). The starter alone didn't spin the motor enough to create a big enough suction to put the fire out.Do what you want. But, I've been there, done that, burnt the shirt
Iplayfarmer
Super Member
chucko said:
When I was a kid I saw my dad and his friend seat a bead with fire. I don't know what they used, WD-40, Ether, etc.; but I thought that was pretty cool.
Anytime I was out with dad and heard "You'd better stand back, son" I learned to stand back but made sure to have a good view of whatever was going to happen.
Usually those were the things that would be followed afterward by "How about if you let me tell your mother about this". I'd bet there are some things that Dad still hasn't gotten around to telling my mom about.
Tig
Veteran Member
I do dribble gas down carbs or spark plug ports on small engines. Then I move myself and the gas away before anyone starts the engine. I have not put gas in a beverage container since the night I was so distracted by the sound of the freshly swapped engine that I took a swig from the beer bottle in my hand. Gag, wrong bottle.
patrick_g
Elite Member
jimmer2880 said:Please don't take this wrong... I'm just trying to be safe, not 'bashin you' (I sure do a lot of things which many would frown on)
Do what you want. But, I've been there, done that, burnt the shirt
It is better to err on the side of caution. If there is significant doubt about the outcome and the downside is significantly dangerous, THEN DON"T DO IT!
Maybe my actions would just have to be witnessed before you could feel even moderately comfortable.
Oh, and I was pulling your leg a bit about the mustard bottle full of gas on fire in your hand after the backfire. I assumed anyone concerned with safety like you are would not risk that.
The baffles in the intake of this Troy Built generator make it nearly impossible to get fuel past them into where it needs to be to get the engine to fire. Pulling the plug(s) and putting a few drops of fuel directly in the cylinder(s) is safer but much more hassle, hence fuel on the filter.
My Coleman generator does backfire till warm if you take the choke all the way off a bit premeaturely but the TroyBuilt has never backfired yet, no matter what. IT cranks really fast so should swallow a small fire.
Pat
