Repair/mechanic tricks and or tips?

[Skyco]

Who ever said Stabil was "patently inappropriate" for diesel use? Alcohols are generally not advised for use in diesel fuel treatments, but some do indeed contain them.
I kinda started this debate about Stabil and as I said I wouldn't use it because it supposedly contains alcohol. Nothing "patently inappropriate" at all about using alcohol and it is nothing to sue over.
I won't use teflon containing oil additives either, or products that supposedly magically reline your cylinders or overpriced ground straps for your engine that make it run better etc...but others are FREE to do so

The fact the bottle of Stabil doesn't say you CAN use it in your diesel fuel concerns me, they don't say you CAN'T either, but then they also don't say you CAN'T use it in your Rice Krispies but I wouldn't

 

[Knotbored]

The fact the bottle of Stabil doesn't say you CAN use it in your diesel fuel concerns me, they don't say you CAN'T either, but then they also don't say you CAN'T use it in your Rice Krispies but I wouldn't

Sta-Bil now has a specific diesel formula.
Dallas Precision Imports
I haven't used it yet, but I am so impressed with the gas additive in my mowers and chainsaws that I will try it next jug of oil I get. My Kubota uses so little fuel I get concerned about the diesel going stale.

 

[Skyco]

Cool Now THAT I might use....wonder why it isn't on the Stabil website?

 

[patrick_g]

Sta-Bil now has a specific diesel formula.
Dallas Precision Imports
I haven't used it yet, but I am so impressed with the gas additive in my mowers and chainsaws that I will try it next jug of oil I get. My Kubota uses so little fuel I get concerned about the diesel going stale.

Thanks so much for posting the link!

I use both Biobor and Stabil so a combo product might be real handy. The only potential down side is you can't add more of the one without adding more of the other since it is mixed together. Biobor is often introduced double strength on first use to "shock" the algae and then at regular strength for maint dose. Oh well, I guess I can buy a bottle of each separately and then typically us the mixed version with the ability to add more of either as the situation requires.

Thanks again, I will be getting some of that combo stuff right away.

Pat

 

[Soundguy]

By the way, Sound Dude...do these look the same to you?

CH3CH2CH2OH
CH3CHOHCH3

Pat

First.. I'm no chemist.. and i didn't stay in a holiday in last night.. however.. at just a glance.. 1 see 3 carbon, 1 oxygen, and 8 hydrogen in each line... do they look the same? you tell me.

Is that one of those thing like asking about "oxydihydrate" or H20 ?

Soundguy

 

[SpringHollow]

The two formulas are not the same. They are isomers of each other. The first has the alcohol group (OH) on the terminal carbon (1-Proanol - they would flip the molecule around for naming it)and the second one has it on the second (middle) carbon (2-propanol).

By the way, isopropanol is 2-propanol.

Ken

 

[patrick_g]

The two formulas are not the same. They are isomers of each other. The first has the alcohol group (OH) on the terminal carbon (1-Proanol - they would flip the molecule around for naming it)and the second one has it on the second (middle) carbon (2-propanol).

By the way, isopropanol is 2-propanol.

Ken

Thanks Ken, non chemist types often just count the atoms and claim equality. There are some startling differences in chemical properties in substances built with the same numbers of atoms of the constituent elements.

Sound guy, it was not intended to be a trick question. The way it was expressed clearly shows it to be "different stuff" as pointed out by Ken.

If equal amounts of ingredients gave equal results then sprinkling some sodium metal and spraying some chlorine gas on your food would be a viable alternative to using salt. Unfortunately, separately both are quite poisonous. In fact if you want to try it be sure to video the sodium metal application as that should be quite entertaining.

If just having the same number of atoms of the ingredient elements made things the same, organic chemistry would be a heck of a lot less complicated, even more simplifying than if pi were equal to 3.

Finding different ways to name the same substance within the standards of scientific nomenclature (H2O, Di hydrogen oxide, etc.) is NOT the same thing as different names for distinctly different isomers that are in fact different compounds with different freezing and boiling points, indices of refraction, electrical properties, magnetic resonance and so forth with any number of differences in their reactions with various substances.

Pat

 

[Iplayfarmer]

The two formulas are not the same. They are isomers of each other. The first has the alcohol group (OH) on the terminal carbon (1-Proanol - they would flip the molecule around for naming it)and the second one has it on the second (middle) carbon (2-propanol).

By the way, isopropanol is 2-propanol.

Ken

O-chem was a while ago, but I think they are going to behave much the same except in complex chemical reactions involving large molecules. The stoicheometry of the isopropanol is a little crowded because of the proximity of the carbons and associated protons on either side of the hydroxyl group.

Now... Who actually cares?

 

[BTDT]

O-chem was a while ago, but I think they are going to behave much the same except in complex chemical reactions involving large molecules. The stoicheometry of the isopropanol is a little crowded because of the proximity of the carbons and associated protons on either side of the hydroxyl group.

Now... Who actually cares?

Exactly. Will it loosen a stuck bolt? Or, shiney up your tractor, or clean the shop floor, or can you burn it in your shop heater, etc.

 

[patrick_g]

O-chem was a while ago, but I think they are going to behave much the same except in complex chemical reactions involving large molecules.

Now... Who actually cares?

What size molecules are your O rings made up of?

Pat