Ripped sidewall on r1 tire

   / Ripped sidewall on r1 tire #31  
OE IS a 6ply Titan at 35 psi. Sidewall says 28. I replaced it with a 6 ply Carlisle. Same specs

I also have the Titan "Hi Traction" ags on my tractor in the 7x16 size. Maximum psi stamped on the tire is 36 lbs on this 6 ply . What is also taken into account is the maximum "bead seating" pressure to be used when installing a tire. Even with install, seating pressures should not exceed maximum load stamped on tire.
 
   / Ripped sidewall on r1 tire #32  
Acknowledged. But the tire undergoes a lot of stress if it deflects too much carrying loader loads. Over time the carcass accumulates critical damage and results in a tire thats dangerous to pump up. Routinely bumping the pressure to support the load well, up to 10 or 15%, is a better alternative.


My tractor manual states 29lbs as inflated front tire specs. The tire states 36Lbs as both max pressure and max "seating" pressure. I would be willing to live with an increase to 36 psi as stated on tire when doing front lifting. This falls almost within your stated parameter. I would be unwilling however, to bump up pressures passed the stated tire pressure for any reason unless specified by tire manufacturer.
 
   / Ripped sidewall on r1 tire
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I contacted Carlisle to get their response. This is what they said"We do not recommend inflating above the max PSI rating displayed on the sidewall of our tires. The max PSI we state is in line with Tire & Rim Association guidelines for a 6PR R-1 tire in the 8-16 size. It may be possible that the original tires on the tractor were rated differently by their manufacturer."
Adam Brown

Product Marketing Manager, AG/Construction

My Titan says 28psi. Manual says 35. I have put over 200 hard hours on the 35psi with no ill effects. I just like to have everything right that is why I ask.
 
   / Ripped sidewall on r1 tire #34  
I contacted Carlisle to get their response. This is what they said"We do not recommend inflating above the max PSI rating displayed on the sidewall of our tires. The max PSI we state is in line with Tire & Rim Association guidelines for a 6PR R-1 tire in the 8-16 size. It may be possible that the original tires on the tractor were rated differently by their manufacturer."
Adam Brown

Product Marketing Manager, AG/Construction

My Titan says 28psi. Manual says 35. I have put over 200 hard hours on the 35psi with no ill effects. I just like to have everything right that is why I ask.
You will get nothing, beyond "company line", asking the company. Youre on your own with a tire that they underate for your tractor. "Too bad."

... As long as the tire is undamaged and less than several yrs old [only shallow surface weathercracking] I would just run the 35 youre used to. Loader use causes internal/invisible damage from excessive bulging to a tire run too soft. There is more forgiveness on the moderately hard side when theres a lot of weight on the tire. Try to limit squat at max load to about 3 full bars touching.
 
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You will get nothing, beyond "company line", asking the company. Youre on your own with a tire that they underate for your tractor. "Too bad."

... As long as the tire is undamaged and less than several yrs old [only shallow surface weathercracking] I would just run the 35 youre used to. Loader use causes internal/invisible damage from excessive bulging to a tire run too soft. There is more forgiveness on the moderately hard side when theres a lot of weight on the tire. Try to limit squat at max load to about 3 full bars touching.

That is pretty stupid that Kioti (daedong) puts a tire on that specs a max of 28psi and tells ownes to put 35 psi. Daedong Industries is no small co to do this. I wonder how many other co's do the same thing? My loader lift capacity is 2700 lbs. Maybe that is why Kioti bumps it up.
 
   / Ripped sidewall on r1 tire #36  
2700 is considerable. Bound to "overload" R1 fronts. The question becomes which is the lesser evil; excessive squat or overpressure. My 7520 has 4k# lift and most of the 1450 hrs are loader work. The squat at max spec tire pressure is excessive even on the 11.2x24 r1s, so I use 35 psi when I plan concerted use of the loader.

The only time I have used a lower pressure is by accident - or when I have the fronts loaded with fluid. 25 psi is enuf with the latter, but the extra 500# on the front contact patches overpowers the already weak power steering. ... So I mostly just use air at an overpessure sufficient to alleviate excessive squat. At 1450 hrs with heavy loader work my R1s are definitely beaten up; tread wear, chunked tread lugs and moderate cuts and 9yrs of weathercracks, but their carcasses are still fine. ... For reference, I once accidentally put 75psi in one of the fronts while filling with water. It gives an idea of what the tire and rim can withstand. Of course I didnt, and wouldnt, run it that way.
 
   / Ripped sidewall on r1 tire #37  
does this have a loader on it? take it to a professional FARM tire shop and have them look at it, they can advise you
 

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