Ballast Roll over

[MHarryE]

Glad you are okay. I investigated 2 fatal accidents in which the unbelted operator tried jumping clear and was killed by the canopy. In both cases the machines were back running by the time I arrived so it was gather evidence through eye witnesses, police and EMT reports, and examine the machines to make sure the seatbelts were functional. Could never be certain they would have survived if wearing their seat belts. It would depend on how violent the overturn was. I did investigate one accident in which the belted operator did not survive. The ROPS did not have a canopy but the overturn was so violent he suffered a fatal head injury when his head struck the ground. In this case a cab would have been needed.

 

[riptides]

If you have a ROPS, use the seat belt. Stay in the machine.

If you don't have a ROPS, seriously consider getting one.

I was going downhill, straight with my Farmall. Had a nice cart of wood behind me. The weight pushed the tractor over. I tried to jump off, got tangled in the tractor. It landed on top of me. Took what seemed like hours to get it off of me. Got a nice helicopter ride out of it. Still have the tee-shirt.

A ROPS would really have helped. But that old girl did not have one.

Don't ever think jumping off equipment will end well.

 

[Reb954]

Right front went up on the pile and left front did not. I misjudged where the pile started.

As for admitting my mistake... no other way to learn. Hopefully someone else read this and started using ballast and putting their ROPS up.

The canopy is coming off the tractor. It hit me in the back on the way over after I exited the tractor. Too much potential of injury with it.

For an early Christmas present to myself I am loading the rear tires. Off to find a rim guard dealer near me.

Unless you don't need it for shade or shelter, I don't understand why you would take off the canopy. It didn't cause the rollover. It almost sounds like you are planning on rolling the tractor again rather than doing what is necessary to not roll the tractor again.

 

[K5lwq]

Unless you don't need it for shade or shelter, I don't understand why you would take off the canopy. It didn't cause the rollover. It almost sounds like you are planning on rolling the tractor again rather than doing what is necessary to not roll the tractor again.

If he feels safer with the canopy removed, why does it matter to anyone else?

 

[jonsstihl]

Glad you are Ok. I think you will find the tractor much safer after loading the rear tires and If you use a counterweight too, it will feel much more stable.

 

[ovrszd]

Unless you don't need it for shade or shelter, I don't understand why you would take off the canopy. It didn't cause the rollover. It almost sounds like you are planning on rolling the tractor again rather than doing what is necessary to not roll the tractor again.

You should have read the next sentence after the one you hilighted. The canopy "almost" got him.

 

[Reb954]

If he feels safer with the canopy removed, why does it matter to anyone else?

It makes no difference to me whether he has a canopy or not, I was just trying to understand the logic behind the decision.

 

[Reb954]

You should have read the next sentence after the one you hilighted. The canopy "almost" got him.

If he didn't have a canopy and the ROPS had almost got him, should that be removed?

I had the back window open on my tractor yesterday while servicing it. At one point I raised up hitting my head on the bottom edge of the window. Maybe I should remove the back window rather than paying attention to my surroundings and what I am doing.

 

[ovrszd]

If he didn't have a canopy and the ROPS had almost got him, should that be removed?

I had the back window open on my tractor yesterday while servicing it. At one point I raised up hitting my head on the bottom edge of the window. Maybe I should remove the back window rather than paying attention to my surroundings and what I am doing.

Try to imagine the scenario as he described it very well in the first post.... The ROPS didn't hit him. The canopy did. Forget all other things. No canopy/no injury.

Your sarcasm is oozing forth.

 

[Redlands Okie]

Another firm believer of seat belt on as soon as my butt is in the seat and keep the bucket low.

I read several people saying they do when on hilly terrain. Keep in mind a animal hole, rotted out and buried stump, bad tire, wheel issues, or even a years old utility line ditch not compacted in a spot can get you. Have had close calls with tires rapidly sinking in trenches twice. Once was one with a unknown and unseen water leak and once a trench that just did not get filled in good until I found it years later. Had a pucker moment with a buried and rotted out stump.

 

[Jim Nelson]

Back when I was still working in the construction and mining industries cabbed equipment was getting popular and one of the biggest things stressed in the safety meetings was objects not secured in the cab. The most common were the heavy Stanley stainless style thermos bottles, lunch boxes, and less often, fire extinguishers. These items would fly around in the cab and cause serious head injuries.

 

[K5lwq]

It makes no difference to me whether he has a canopy or not, I was just trying to understand the logic behind the decision.

I see. Well I think the logic is the canopy knocked the crap out of him and he doesn't like it anymore. Seems like a logical conclusion to me. :confused3:

 

[TheMan419]

Unless you don't need it for shade or shelter, I don't understand why you would take off the canopy. It didn't cause the rollover. It almost sounds like you are planning on rolling the tractor again rather than doing what is necessary to not roll the tractor again.

I wasn't planning on rolling it the first time yet here we are...... what kind of dumb ***** intends to roll his tractor the first or second time (or 3rd, 4th ect?)?

 

[TheMan419]

Glad you are Ok. I think you will find the tractor much safer after loading the rear tires and If you use a counterweight too, it will feel much more stable.

My wife has heard me preach a thousand times for the need for counter weight. I got lazy and did not pick up the 3 point tiller I have for counter weight. Just needed to quickly push manure up into the pile.... what could go wrong? Well now I need new underwear too!

 

[TheMan419]

Try to imagine the scenario as he described it very well in the first post.... The ROPS didn't hit him. The canopy did. Forget all other things. No canopy/no injury.

Your sarcasm is oozing forth.

Exactly on the canopy issue. The ROPS never came close to hitting me. Also I have no cab so I am not going to bump my head in the window. Also I tend to ignore idiots..... but that is a different thread that would probably get locked.

 

[MossRoad]

I guess the questions for a lot of us are, "If your ROPS was up, why weren't you wearing your seatbelt while operating the machine?"

And "How is removing the canopy going to make you any safer?"

 

[ovrszd]

I guess the questions for a lot of us are, "If your ROPS was up, why weren't you wearing your seatbelt while operating the machine?"

And "How is removing the canopy going to make you any safer?"

I can't believe you missed it too........

Focus Moss......

 

[lilranch2001]

Yeah I have a nice bruise on my back right at waist line from the canopy. Canopy did not crack so I hate to think what would have happened if I were under it.

My dealer is also a rim guard dealer. They are getting a sale.

When I read your posts, I had chills run down my spine, I was helping a neighbor pull some rolls of fence old rusty that he wanted cleaned up, and the rolls were at the bottom of a hill, I was at the top.

He had hooked a chain up to the rolls and I was backing up, the roll got hooked on a bush, and he signaled for me to raise the loader, I foolishly did and since I was pulling slightly at an angle, I felt my rear end pucker as my left rear tire lifted, fortunately I had my BB on the rear end AND I instantly dropped the loader. The tractor settled back down, but I do not think I was that far off from possibly rolling it

Also I had my tires filled with Rimguard they day I picked it up new

 

[groundcover]

My wife has heard me preach a thousand times for the need for counter weight. I got lazy and did not pick up the 3 point tiller I have for counter weight. Just needed to quickly push manure up into the pile.... what could go wrong? Well now I need new underwear too!

If you do away with the canopy and underwear you should be fine !

 

[workinonit]

Ballast your tractor but remember that this type of roll over can and will happen regardless of ballast. Bucket full and high, wheel runs up on something, bucket gets off center and over it goes. Just don't get too confident just because you have ballast. I have a waist high rule with a loaded bucket.