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Here is the turnaround after. That is 3/4 crushed rock with fines. When driven on, it packs down real smooth. The grader did a pretty good job of blending the colums left by the dump truck and with the rear gate down, dragged the thicker spots to the thinner ones nicely.
 

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Here is a shot down the hill. I used around 22 CU/YD total but I think I will have another 2 yards or so delivered to do a matching walk and fill in one thin spot down near the road. I think it came out pretty well considering this project started as a pile of metal 2 weeks ago.
 

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That turned out really well, good job!

I was really surprised how well the dump drivers can lay down an even spread of gravel. I have about 300 feet of uphill driveway. The first truck went up the hill dropping his load, the second did it going downhill. When they were done, I didn't need to do a thing!
 
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Ronmar so a grader like what you made would be good for in on a woods road with high points and low points to scrape it flat and fill in the dips. I have a old woods road that is settling in a lot of places with these dips and high points .So after the ground is scrapped and the low points are filled they settle and after a while and have to be filled again ?
 
   / Rons Grader #25  
Ron, that grader looks perfect! I am going to start collecting metal for one myself. Thanks for posting the pics.
 
   / Rons Grader #26  
Ronmar,
That grader is a beauty! The proof is in the work it does, and it looks like it does a great job.

Would it be too much to ask for an overhead picture of it so we can see the angle?
 
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fiddler kelly said:
Ronmar so a grader like what you made would be good for in on a woods road with high points and low points to scrape it flat and fill in the dips. I have a old woods road that is settling in a lot of places with these dips and high points .So after the ground is scrapped and the low points are filled they settle and after a while and have to be filled again ?

Thanks guys.

Fiddler:
Well if the road is going to settle, it is going to do so regardless of what you do to it... This grader does do a pretty good job of moving the high spots to the low ones.

The only snag I really ran into using this thing on my property is that I am on the side of an old creek valley. It is a lot of sand and a LOT of round river rock. On the first couple of passes, the leading edge would bite enough to dislodge the rocks(softball sized?) then like large ballbearings, the flat bottom of the front blade would ride up and roll across them at times. Once they were out of the ground it was fine and they would collect in the box or in front of the blade. It was when they rolled out of their hole that there was a problem. This of course lift's the whole box and dumps it's contents. Once these big rocks were picked out of the ground, it worked well.

I put in 400' of 2" pipe from the irrigation ditch at the top of my place down toward the middle. When the pipe was in, I had a trench, with a semi packed mounds on either side from walking on the trench dirt as we placed the pipe. I dumped a bucket of dirt at one end to load up the grader, then backed the grader over it and started dragging with the rear gate down. This cut the packed dirt on either side and either put it in the trench or kept the grader full and the material in the bucket filled in the trench. 2 passes and it was done.

SkunkWerX: I will see about some overhead pics, I may have some in the pics folder.
 
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The first time I've seen one of these graders is on this site. How does this grader compare to a box grader for maintaining a gravel road? What's good and what's not good about this kind of grader if you don't mind sharing your experience?
 
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2manyrocks said:
The first time I've seen one of these graders is on this site. How does this grader compare to a box grader for maintaining a gravel road? What's good and what's not good about this kind of grader if you don't mind sharing your experience?

These have been around for a while, "Duragrader" and "Bad Boy" immediately come to mind as manufacturers(modeled mine loosely after the bad boy). there was one other I can recall, but can't think of the name just now. It used "V" blades, one spread the material outward and the second wider blade spread it back inward and evened it out. Someone posted a pic asking about it a few weeks ago on one of the forums.

I have never used a regular box for maintaining a gravel road so I may not be of much help:) But in my box experience, they don't shave as well with the single blade back at the rear. They are good, in conjunction with scarifier teeth, at breaking up soil, which is collected in the box for relocation, filling in low spots along the way. Because of the blade all the way at the back, a steady release of material in my opinion is also a little more difficult to control and adjust. But I also havn't tried to do too much of that with one either, just rip and relocate. I have read here of some having good results when adding gauge wheels to their box. This would seem to me to give very fine release control to a regular box blade.

With the blade up front, I look at it more like a hand planer or block plane. it's amount of cut is less, but can be very accurately controlled with the toplink. The cut material builds up, spreads out and rides up and over the first blade. In doing so, it breaks up and loosens the material. The same thing happens with the second blade and the end result is a smooth level re-distribution of the surface material. High spots get shaved, low spots get filled and scraped smooth. I added a fold down gate for mine as I saw a need to capture and relocate the shaved material at times like a traditional box.

When dragging or grooming gravel, the material spreads out across the blades and flows over evenly leaving a smooth surface. It blends a center hump into the ruts on my drive, but so does a chain harrow on this established gravel surface. One thing I did find interesting while cutting my circular drive thru grass was that the grass and dirt as it passed over the blades, broke up very nicely, leaving the soil and separating the grass and roots which tended to hang up on the top edge of the triangular blades or was left on top of the dragged area for easy collection with a rake.

It takes more passes to remove material with one like mine as apposed to a regular box. In my opinion, kind of like the difference between a belt sander(traditional box blade) and a finish sander?
 
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Thank you. I think I understand now.

My impression then is that an adjustable rear blade would be suited for cleaning up a badly rutted road and ditches, the standard box blade would be suited for general leveling and moving more material on a flat surface but not ditches, and then a grader like yours would be used for fine grading of a flat surface.
 

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