Rotella question

   / Rotella question #11  
HGM said:
Is there something wrong with the Motorcraft 15-40 that was designed to run in the engine?

No, nothing at all wrong with the repackaged Ford 15w-40. Could be Rotella:eek: :D
 
   / Rotella question #12  
IH3444 said:
Is there something wrong with the Motorcraft 15-40 that was designed to run in the engine?

No, nothing at all wrong with the repackaged Ford 15w-40. Could be Rotella:eek: :D[/quote]

:D OK...:rolleyes: ... All I can say is that I have personally fixed quite a few PSD's by changing the Rotella out(usually bulk).. So, while its surely repackaged something in the Motorcraft bottle, I'm fairly certain its not Rotella.. I dont want to slam the brand, I know many folks have good luck with it.. For the cost savings, I don't see the reasoning....
 
   / Rotella question #13  
Usually there will be a list of manufacturers whose specifications an oil meets on the back of the jug.

Is there a spec put out by Ford or IHC for their engines that Rotella does not meet?
 
   / Rotella question #14  
cp1969 said:
Usually there will be a list of manufacturers whose specifications an oil meets on the back of the jug.

Is there a spec put out by Ford or IHC for their engines that Rotella does not meet?




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   / Rotella question #15  
cp1969 said:
Usually there will be a list of manufacturers whose specifications an oil meets on the back of the jug.

Is there a spec put out by Ford or IHC for their engines that Rotella does not meet?

I'm sure it meets the requirements. It does sound outrageous and I hesitated posting it again.. I just know for a fact, that I have fixed several trucks (mostly 6.0Ls) after $1000's of attempted repairs simply by changing the oil.. After doing a little investigation, I found ths brand to be the same in each..

I also know many people run it without a problem and I cant explain it scientificly, though I suspect it has something to do with it being bulk(which I nomally dont have a problem with).. I can only recomend that if you own a HEUI Ford with a rough running condition, change the oil before you spend $XXXX on repairing it..
 
   / Rotella question
  • Thread Starter
#16  
So are you telling me that if I change over to synthetic rotella I'm going to start having problems? I'd like to get alittle more mileage out of the oil before changing it. I certainly don't want to change oils and develop issues.

Matt T.:D
 
   / Rotella question #17  
GreatWhitehunter said:
So are you telling me that if I change over to synthetic rotella I'm going to start having problems? I'd like to get alittle more mileage out of the oil before changing it. I certainly don't want to change oils and develop issues.

Matt T.:D
I have read claims about the changeover with high miles on an engine causing seals to leak.

My only experiance has been changing all of my small gas engines over to Mobile Sythetic with no apparent effects. I did this because some of my engines sit long periods and synthetic is supposed to absorb less moisture than dino.

I run Rottela dino in my 97' Dodge Ram with 200k on the clock. I change it every 5-6k along with the filter and except for the "stink" when fresh, have no apparent problems. I use only a little oil due to the front seal leaking again. We are talking about a farm truck here that gets more use than babying so the body is showing it's age.

I figure that had I used synthetic all this time, the extra expense would hardly have been returned. I have no issues with sythetics one way or the other. I just need to watch my bucks.
 
   / Rotella question #18  
rback33 said:
Boy.. they are putting it to ya.... I change my own oil on most of my vehicles, but since the engine is still under warranty I am letting the dealers change it. Even then I only get hit for 65-75 dollars for it. I also specify Rotella. I probably got a great deal on my last service...did the engine & tranny both with both filters and an air filter... for $262 felt like I came out OK on that... Coulda done it all myself, but the dodge tranny scares me a bit from the horror stories I hear.. so I baby it some and let the pros mess with it.

I used to own a transmission shop, so I have a reasonable knowledge of transmissions. Let me give you some free advise (it may only be worth what you pay), but if your transmission pan doesn't have a drain plug (Dodge trucks don't), then pull it, drill a hole and weld on a bung with a bolt plug. Drain the tranny every 12000 miles (you'll only get about half the oil out) and replace it with new. Do this and I can almost guarantee that it will last 200,000 + miles. I have never had to rebuild one of my own transmissions doing this (including a 96 Dodge truck which pulls a heavy trailer regularly). If you want to get all of the oil each change, you have to remove the pressure line from the tranny to the cooler and do an "under pressure" type of change.
 
   / Rotella question #19  
GreatWhitehunter said:
So are you telling me that if I change over to synthetic rotella I'm going to start having problems? I'd like to get alittle more mileage out of the oil before changing it. I certainly don't want to change oils and develop issues.

Matt T.:D

Nope, but if you do, I would highly recomend changing the oil to another brand before having a rough running,bucking, surging or missing concern diagnosed.. It may not fix it, but I have seen high bills run up when something as simple as an oil change would have fixed it.. Again, some guys run Rotella with no problem, I cant and wont say its bad oil.. I've just dropped that rock on my foot before and wont be doing it again..:D
 
   / Rotella question #20  
problem with using bulk oil is it may be adulterated with other petroleum products..

tanker goes somewhere and delivers diesel fule, then goes somewhere else delivering 10W30 and somewhere else delivering 15W40.

they never get all of the old stuff out of the tanker, it goes in with the new.
 

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