Rough start in cold weather on Bransons

   / Rough start in cold weather on Bransons #11  
I switched from rotella 15w 40 to rotella 5 w 40 syn. and it now starts way better in the winter. I also did this years ago with my 7.3 powerstroke and now I never have to plug it in to start it.

Rob
 
   / Rough start in cold weather on Bransons #12  
I had mine all apart looking for injector and/or glow plug problems for this.
I cleaned everything up, wire brushed all electrical contacts, gooped them up with dielectric gel, etc. and re-assembled.
That seemed to have done the trick, I am reasonably sure that the glow plug bus bar had some high resistance somewhere, most probably from paint, perhaps from insufficient clamping pressure on the connections.
I can't be certain, since I can no longer put back what I think was causing the problem to reproduce it, but I ain't arguing with success (-:

If it clears after 15 or 20 seconds I would guess that a cylinder isn't firing until has been cranked MANY times by the other cylinders firing and warming it up by compression.
Like 7 to 10 THOUSAND times, these ARE compression ignition engines (-:
 
   / Rough start in cold weather on Bransons
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#13  
What brand is the synthetic? I have been using Delo 15w-40.
 
   / Rough start in cold weather on Bransons
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#14  
That sounds like a very good idea. I've noticed the paint on the buss bar for the golw plugs, and wondered if some of the paint got under the connection at the factory. Will check it out .Thanks for all the advice.
 
   / Rough start in cold weather on Bransons
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#15  
Don't have ablock heater on mine. But was thinking of a inline hose heater. Will look at all sugestions . Thanks for the advice.
 
   / Rough start in cold weather on Bransons #16  
I just bought a inline heater made by Budd companies (called ZeroStart). What I liked about it, its all metal not cheap plastic. I got it on ebay. Putting it in this weekend. See if that helps my smoke issues.
 
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#17  
What did you have to pay for it? Let me know if it helps.
 
   / Rough start in cold weather on Bransons #18  
I got it for $27.95 including S&H. I didn't get to put it in though, maybe this week......
 
   / Rough start in cold weather on Bransons #19  
I have a six year old 4720. I have found that if I do not pump the hand throttle it will start much better in cold weather. Leave the hand throttle all the way up until it starts then give it enough throttle to bring the RPMs up to normal idle speed. If it doesn稚 start right away, I cycle the glow plugs again and retry.
I think that when I pump it, it gets too much fuel in the cylinders and acts like it is flooded. Maybe the glow plugs can稚 get hot enough when cold fuel is squirted into the cylinders at low temperatures.
 
   / Rough start in cold weather on Bransons #20  
I have a six year old 4720. I have found that if I do not pump the hand throttle it will start much better in cold weather. Leave the hand throttle all the way up until it starts then give it enough throttle to bring the RPMs up to normal idle speed. If it doesn稚 start right away, I cycle the glow plugs again and retry.
I think that when I pump it, it gets too much fuel in the cylinders and acts like it is flooded. Maybe the glow plugs can稚 get hot enough when cold fuel is squirted into the cylinders at low temperatures.

I am fairly SURE that "pumping" doesn't do anything.
It isn't like the old style carbs, there is no "pumper" per se.

I set my governor hand control to a hundred or two hundred RPM above idle just before I shut down.
I don't have kids meddling or playing on it between uses, so that hand control stays pretty much where I leave it (-:
Starts right up every time - still no recurrence of the little issues I had before the bus bar clean up, so I'm putting it all down to that.

Couple of things about block heaters;

The side of the {Cummins based 42 HP} engine has a screw in block plug that appears to be pipe thread (reasonably sure about that, but do check the thread).
If you drain the radiator down some and take that plug out you will see that it could be replaced with a thread in heater between cylinders 2 and 3.
This is about as direct as you can get to placing the heat where it will do the most good.
The "awethentik" Branson block heater goes in there, but there is almost certainly a lower co$t alternative from your fave discount parts house.
It takes a 1/2 inch socket drive, use maybe a 3 inch extension on your ratchet handle, take the plug to the hardware store to match up the thread.

If you don't want to go in there and do it that way then a lower hose heater can work, but DO align it to the hose before you take anything apart or drain any fluid.
Mark the hose while it is still there on the tractor, two cuts, allow for the gap, about 1 1/2 inch IIRC.
The piece you cut out can be slit and wrapped around the "back" of the heater body for a bit of extra insulation and chaffing protection.
This is less direct and less efficient than an in-block heater, a lot of the heat goes to the radiator, which by definition is a heat dump.
 

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