Safety in China Video.

/ Safety in China Video. #3  
No need to wonder why manufacturers are packing up and moving to China when they have numerous workers to do dangerous work for a fraction of the wages that they would need to pay in North America.

OSHA what's that!

Check out the pedestrian walkways that they have built in the mountains...insanity!
 
/ Safety in China Video. #4  
Looks like that rerod nearly got him as it sprang back from all that weight. Insane for little pay as well probably.:laughing: No wonder we can not compete.
 
/ Safety in China Video. #5  
Quite the video.

ericher69 said:
OSHA what's that!

Sooner than you think that could be a question you or your kids may ask.
 
/ Safety in China Video. #7  
Seems like they were being careful to me.

If that's the only safety issue you can find, all is well. There are entire buildings that fall over for the lack of rebar and a foundation, and because of corruption they get approved.

You should see the bamboo scaffolding that goes up many stories. Or the machinery, or the way they haul bricks to the upper floors. The lack of rebar.

Then take a look at the total disregard for traffic rules and the amount of traffic deaths each year over there.

It goes on and on. An old world country moving into the modern world, rife with corruption and financially growing very fast. Capitalism becoming the name of he game. Freedoms that make the US look over controlled. Tearing down the past and moving into the 21st century in a fury of development beyond what America has ever seen.
 
/ Safety in China Video. #8  
Seems like they were being careful to me.

If that's the only safety issue you can find, all is well. There are entire buildings that fall over for the lack of rebar and a foundation, and because of corruption they get approved.

You should see the bamboo scaffolding that goes up many stories. Or the machinery, or the way they haul bricks to the upper floors. The lack of rebar.

Then take a look at the total disregard for traffic rules and the amount of traffic deaths each year over there.

It goes on and on. An old world country moving into the modern world, rife with corruption and financially growing very fast. Capitalism becoming the name of he game. Freedoms that make the US look over controlled. Tearing down the past and moving into the 21st century in a fury of development beyond what America has ever seen.
It did look like the worker was tied off, but it was still crazy stupid, but as you say the supervision over there doesn't care about worker safety, only getting the job done. If you are willing to do it, then there are many others that will.
There needs to be a balance between the Chinese disregard for worker safety and our over zealous regulations.
Capitalism does rule and the Chinese don't hamper someone wanting to manufacture goods for our consumption.
Here are some photos from my time in China. Most are self explanatory. The one with the big motors shows their way of heating the building. The drum has lump coal in it that they are burning to provide heat. The smell was stifling and I wish I had a CO meter to see what the CO levels were in the building. Needless to say, I hung around long enough to take the photo then left.
Safety was haphazard to say the least. They had people walking around in ragged shirts and sandals, but I was chastised for not having a chin strap on my hard hat.
 

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/ Safety in China Video. #9  
They all have hard hats....obviously safety is job 1
 
/ Safety in China Video. #10  
The worker that was lowered, was wearing a harness, and was tied off to the excavator. While this was dangerous, it hardly rises to the occasion the person who made the video made it out to be.

They had a problem, and they did what they had to do to take care of it. This happens a lot in the real world.
 
/ Safety in China Video. #11  
Not THAT crazy or risky, he HAD a harness on.
Several watcher/helpers relaying signals too.
Gee, they are getting more and more like US workers - one to change the light bulb, many to watch/direct/run commentary/take video/criticize/etc.

I've seen worse, right here in USA.
I might have DONE worse, though not as impressive/spectacular (-:
I have selective amnesia on things like that.
 
/ Safety in China Video. #12  
Thousands die in coal mine 'accidents' in china each year.
 
/ Safety in China Video. #13  
Sorry, but I admire those guys. And to think, rock climbers and such do this kind of thing for free.

Our country has gotten so choked down by regs and rights, we can't get anything done. Now look where all the work has gone to. There is a balance, but I don't either country has it. And just so you know, I'd rather be here than there. Even though we've gone beyond balance, it is the lesser evil in my judgement.
 
/ Safety in China Video. #14  
You'd think that they had never heard of using explosives to demolish a building.

Here is a video of a building demolition gone wrong in Egypt. It appears to be a similar situation, trying to save money at the expense of the safety of the workers.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIL6-QgabW8]Tragic demolition of building in Egypt - RIP for the worker.3gp - YouTube[/ame]
 
/ Safety in China Video. #15  
Sorry, but I admire those guys. And to think, rock climbers and such do this kind of thing for free.

Our country has gotten so choked down by regs and rights, we can't get anything done. Now look where all the work has gone to. There is a balance, but I don't either country has it. And just so you know, I'd rather be here than there. Even though we've gone beyond balance, it is the lesser evil in my judgement.

Agree ! I work for a utility and we have over 30 people in our safety dept that dont do squat except cause more work and reduce safety because all the employees run and hide when there around.
 
/ Safety in China Video. #16  
Thousands die in coal mine 'accidents' in china each year.

Probably not as many as die on US roads each year due to "alcohol fueled" so called "accidents" ?
 
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OH MY GOSH the driver jumpes as the building comes down I wonder whatt he result was?
 
/ Safety in China Video. #18  
OH MY GOSH the driver jumpes as the building comes down I wonder whatt he result was?

From the title and content of the video I surmise that the worker was killed, or more to the point, he was probably flattened by thousands of tons of concrete falling on him.
 
/ Safety in China Video. #19  
From the title and content of the video I surmise that the worker was killed, or more to the point, he was probably flattened by thousands of tons of concrete falling on him.

I can't imagine what they were trying to do, but it seems painfully obvious the front of the building was heavier that the rest of it, and with the high lower level supports, and the upper overhangs, it was cantilevered in such a way that there was a good chance of it all leaning toward the excavator as it fell.

If they were indeed trying to drop the building at that time, it was more than just the bosses fault. The worker, (who may very well have been the boss), clearly either had chosen to take the risk, (probably got away with this kind of thing before), or was so lacking in judgment, he would certainly have found an alternate way to receive the Darwin award, had this tragedy not happened.
 
/ Safety in China Video. #20  
... You should see the bamboo scaffolding that goes up many stories...
I recently saw a program that was talking about different things used in the building industry. When they talked about scaffolding, they mentioned the use of the bamboo scaffolding in the orient (seems more then just China uses it).

They pointed out how flexible it is when it comes to following the contour of the building since it can do curves. They also pointed out ho much sturdier it is then traditional metal scaffolding like is used in this country.

They also mentioned how long the use of bamboo scaffolding has been around and the success rate and safety of it.

They may have some safety issues in China that some here may question but bamboo scaffolding should not be one of them.
 

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