sales figures

[Robert_in_NY]

The thing is the sales numbers have not declined. Go to MahindraUSA.com and check out the stats. I just talked to my dealer. The only thing that seems to be holding Mahindra back is the lack of dealerships scattered everywhere. They are working on that. I know there is 1 possibly two opening up near me with the next year. If you are going to post something. Post all the facts, not just a piece of it.

Also, I would like a dealer that carries all of the brands. It would make it easier to pull the machines side by side and compare them all. Even drive them all. Like vehicle shopping, you seem to always have a salesman thats not worth a darn and you need to research the questions for yourself.

I dont think you could afford to buy a tractor from a dealer as big as you'd like. Their overhead would be huge. To have that many tractors would be crazy on one lot. Tractors don't sell as fast as cars so you cant really run the business the same way. Then you'll also have salesman pushing their favorite tractor so some brands would just sit there taking up space and money. I cant imagine having more then two brands on one lot. Basically one brand that compliments the other. Kubota doesn't have any implements so selling along side new holland helps the dealer sell nh implements to kubota customers and kubota compact/utility tractors to larger farms.

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

Neil, during the same period of time quoted in the article where Mahindra sold 205,810 units, how many tractors did Kubota sell worldwide?

Other than that, it seems like Neil's contributions to the board are all positive and valuable. Well, maybe his Mahindra contributions are valuable as well!

for those who asked, I posted it because people ask about this stuff a lot. It was just a sentance or two on the NAEDA emails that I get. I did not knock off the total, it was not sent on the email I got.

I don't know the worldwide answer. I've checked Kubota's annual reports and they don't share those numbers like Mahindra does. I know its about 200,000-250,000/units per year in the US and a low 50's market share under 110 PTO HP. (incl RTV, Turf, etc) I've never seen any global numbers

 

[bcp]

Over 10,000 a month sold, month after month, for years, and I've never seen one. Everything seems to be orange, green, or rust.



Bruce

 

[JerryK]

OK, sounds good to me. Now, let's ALL go outside and enjoy the nice weather... enough wasted bandwidth .....

 

[bcp]

Now, let's ALL go outside and enjoy the nice weather...

Wish I could:

My weather

 

[DavesTractor]

for those who asked, I posted it because people ask about this stuff a lot. It was just a sentance or two on the NAEDA emails that I get. I did not knock off the total, it was not sent on the email I got.

I don't know the worldwide answer. I've checked Kubota's annual reports and they don't share those numbers like Mahindra does. I know its about 200,000-250,000/units per year in the US and a low 50's market share under 110 PTO HP. (incl RTV, Turf, etc) I've never seen any global numbers

Neil, I get those emails also, and mine apparently had more info than yours. But even if we allow you that your motives were pure, your Kubota numbers aren't.

The entire USA tractor market last year, all brands combined, all HP combined, for the entire year was 168,324 units. You know that, let's get some real numbers! You have overstated Kubota's sales by many multiples. Let's have some hard numbers.

Kubota sells a great product and sells a lot of them. Kubota is to be admired in many ways, and certainly the new Max series is aimed squarely at the BX, but let's get real on these numbers and stop the deception. :thumbsup:

For those that feel I am being harsh towards Neil, he and I have been down this same path many times. He starts a debate, I give real numbers, he gives mystery numbers, he then says he can't get the real numbers and this goes to bed for a few months.

 

[jonyyuma]

Abby equipment is the local Mahindra dealer, and inspite of being farely new to the area. They have nearly sold their entire stock of Mahindras...I see where my local Kubota dealer has restocked too, so the matter of picking is not due to shortages? I love my Used Kubota, had I needed a new tractor I might have given in to buying a Mahindra. I would have had to sit on it and actually run it to make the decision after getting the final price...I did not like how the Maroon Paint fades so fast, but have noticed the kubota paint dulling up too..

 

[MrChris]

I've noticed in the last year, based on the number of people who are participating in this forum, that there has been an appreciable increase in people who not only want to know more about Mahindras, but are actually buying them. Meanwhile, there seems to be fewer negative threads started about Mahindras. If you have been participating here for a few years I know you will agree. For Mahindra, that's a very good sign of succeeding.

 

[ssg510]

I remember a time not so long ago when people looked down on a certain orange import. People started buying based on their quality and reliability and look where they are today. I think mahindra has a real quality product. They just need dealerships that focus on tractors not Atvs. The successful dealers are tractor dealers first. That's another topic. Watch out for the new tractor on the block.

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

Neil, I get those emails also, and mine apparently had more info than yours. But even if we allow you that your motives were pure, your Kubota numbers aren't.

Thats not a "Tractors" only number. If you look at what I wrote, I specificly said (RTV's, Truf, etc). Its 200,000-250,000 units over all their product lines, not just tractors. I am sure Mahindra would be showing the the same if they made anything besides tractors. If i had to give a rough guess, 50% of what we sell in Kubota's product line is not "tractors". 25% of what we sell is RTV's (we'll sell well over 100 this year). Throw in the turf and construction and 200,000+ becomes not unrealistic at all. I've never seen these figures broken out by product line to have any basis to guess what part is tractors. They've shared the unit and marketshare totals freely.

Another angle is to look at this on a dealers vs sales level. There are 1100-1200 dealers, 200,000 units is 160-180 per dealer, which seems like a proper average.

I'm not sure whats wrong with those figures, if you have another way to spin them I'm all ears. Like I said, I enjoy the business of our industry and this stuff perks my interest.