Seat safety Switch? What is the point?

[fried1765]

The fish on Friday has absolutely NOTHING to do with the title of this thread.
The totally off subject issue was raised by CADplans in post #7.
My response, was simply to answer his question.

 

[WranglerX]

So......I am nearly 80.
If I sit on my tractor with safety switch connected, and ROPS attached.....how much longer should I expect to live?
I have lived through riding my bike without a helmet, drinking from the garden hose, not having car seat belts, landing on an aircraft carrier, being shot at in Vietnam, etc. and I am STILL alive!

At my age, I think the Coronavirus, Cancer, or organ failure, is MUCH more likely to be my undoing, than a seat switch, or ROPS. (On my L48TLB, the seat switch is bypassed, and the ROPS is off).
I think the New Hampshire motto has it exactly right: "Live Free or Die"!

38,000 people die each year in automobile accidents (even with seat belts, and air bags).
That is a LOT !!
Idealistically, we could prevent ALL those deaths, if we just simply quit driving!

So... I am following you very close at 75, and so far nobody has told me what my expiration date is.... I surely don't what to rush it...

Dale

 

[WranglerX]

As I understand it, the requirement for a seat operator presence switch is based on tractor frame size. The object is to make it so that you cannot accidentally put the tractor in gear while standing on the ground and run yourself over.

Aaron Z

What about if driver is flipped off tractor and its in gear and throttled up and runs over operator ?????

Dale

 

[timbatrader]

I see the seat safety switch as an example of what I see as a common problem with safety systems someone raises an unlikely or improbable hazard the person charged with assessing it in an *** covering response puts in place a new procedure safety switch or whatever that is impractical to use and way over the top response to the perceived hazard the result is people remove or override the said procedure or safety switch which breeds a culture of acceptance of overriding safety procedures which ultimately leads to overriding safety procedures that should never be broken So My position is putting a seat safety switch on a tractor in the first place which is prone to causing frustration and problems leading to its removal actually is more dangerous than not putting it on

 

[airbiscuit]

1. I wish seat, PTO, Neutral safety switches were more reliable
2. I wish there was a light or code which indicates which switch is preventing the engine from turning over
3. I wish there was a SAFE START MODE (like semis have) to override safety switches if you need to get the tractor home

 

[k0ua]

1. I wish seat, PTO, Neutral safety switches were more reliable
2. I wish there was a light or code which indicates which switch is preventing the engine from turning over
3. I wish there was a SAFE START MODE (like semis have) to override safety switches if you need to get the tractor home

It could be done. You would have a small CPU that has multiple inputs. Those inputs would be the inputs for the various safety switches. Since it is NOT done that way now, but simply by hooking switches in series and if ANY one is open then the tractor fails to start or run. Of course you never know where to start working, and of course have no code readout to tell you where to look either... Your idea is a good one, and wouldn't really cost a fortune to implement either.

 

[Peter 315]

1. I wish seat, PTO, Neutral safety switches were more reliable
2. I wish there was a light or code which indicates which switch is preventing the engine from turning over
3. I wish there was a SAFE START MODE (like semis have) to override safety switches if you need to get the tractor home

What a waste of 3 wishes.....:laughing:

 

[airbiscuit]

I wished all three when after a big snowstorm, it was -10F, and my NH 1925 wouldn't start (seat safety switch contacts corroded).

You're right, wishing didn't help. Electronics cleaner did!

 

[Cat_Driver]

Hi All,

I was viewing a thread where the seat safety switch was the focus.

I guess I am thick headed, but I do not have seat safety switches on either of my tractors and really cannot see an advantage to having one, other than perhaps a quick shutdown should one tip the tractor on its side, or worse.

What am I missing? It sure seems like the seat safety switch causes a lot of grief to those whose tractors have them, and not having one brings no grief to those of us who do not have them.

I guess I would install seat safety switches if they are a real benefit, but I just can not see what the real benefit is!

** OK, perhaps such a switch prevents one from starting the tractor(with the key) while standing next to it. I get that. But with a hydrostatic tractor, the directional pedal must be centered to start it, so there is some protection there...

If you bounced out of the tractor by hitting some rough land or turned over you would want the machine to STOP in its tracks. Otherwise, it would either run you over or keep running with a hot engine with you pinned under it.

Sure they are a PITA, but so are seatbelts, airbags, climbing harnesses, steel-toed boots, chain saw chaps, eye protection, face shields, gloves, and all the other safety equipment ever made.

Sure is a lot easier just getting in a car and driving off, but nope they make us wear seat belts to save our lives in an accident. Go figure!

 

[BrokenTrack]

Sure is a lot easier just getting in a car and driving off, but nope they make us wear seat belts to save our lives in an accident. Go figure!

I sure wished my sister was wearing a seat belt. It would have saved 20 years of anguish for my family, and especially my parents; she was decapitated at 19 years old when her car rolled over.