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   / Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong #20,591  
If he compares his wifes grocery getter half ton without tow package nor suspension upgrades, to his 3/4 or 1 ton, he has a point. Standard half tons are equipped for comfort, but too soft in the suspension for heavy towing. But a suspension upgrade makes it a whole different animal.
But it sounds like he will not tow any trailer with a half ton, I have a couple heavy trailers that I tow with our one ton, but I have no problem hauling our side-by-side with our half ton
 
   / Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong #20,592  
But it sounds like he will not tow any trailer with a half ton, I have a couple heavy trailers that I tow with our one ton, but I have no problem hauling our side-by-side with our half ton
Why would I use the 1/2-ton if I don't have to?

And as mentioned, I did try. Once with the '14 and once with the '21. Same trailer.
First time a 10' culvert as a "load", the second time with about 25 gallons of oil in a drum.
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   / Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong #20,594  
I would say fuel economy, but since your half ton is a gasser and your one ton most probably a diesel, that wont fly...
Had a feeling that mileage would be brought up, and you're correct.

With the 3500's diesel it tends to average around 10 mpg, with a very rare occasional fill-up in the low 13s. That may sound dismal, but considering the terrain, that it's always pulling something, and the speeds, it's not all that bad.

Meanwhile, the 1500's best tank has been 14.75 mpg, and the lowest 12.89. But, except for the 20-mile drive pictured above, it hasn't been used for towing. Or carrying more than five bags of softener salt in the bed for that matter.

When towing that trailer with the '14 1500 the mileage dropped to about half of normal (into the low teens). Don't remember what the Lie-O-Meter claimed during the short drive with the '21, but it was likely heading for the low teens, too.

So in my case there's no reason to compromise safety (tiny brakes, no exhaust brake, etc.) to save on fuel. Besides, it wouldn't be all that easy to put a gooseneck hitch in the 1500.
 
   / Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong #20,595  
had to add helper springs to my '20 Sierra 1500 the back end was so weak, my '03 Ram 1500 was much stronger and less squat with the same load.
 
   / Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong #20,596  
But not all 1/2 tons are the same. My ‘13 F150 with HDPP has a heavier frame, heavier suspension, heavier shocks, LT tires and brakes that are almost as big as a 3/4. On top of that it has a CCC of 2592 lbs (more than some older 3/4’s) It tows my 8000 scale weight trailer just as well as a 3/4 and has more ccc than some current diesel 3/4’s

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   / Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong #20,597  
One thing the German's and a few other Euro countries have really done right, is to have different speed limits based on the weight of the vehicle
This has to be a freaking nightmare!!
Considering how some people drive now when the passing lane is only going 10 mph faster than the slow lane, I can just imagine if trucks were restricted to 50, while cars were still allowed to drive 70 so some feel they can do 90.
 
   / Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong #20,598  
That used to be the way it was. I remember there were truck speed limit and car speed limit signs on the interstate. Also night speed limit for trucks was posted. The speed limit on I 20 years ago was 70, trucks 60 and night 55. Probably caused too many accidents and was changed to 70 for everyone. Now it's posted 75 in Texas.
 
   / Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong #20,599  
But not all 1/2 tons are the same. My ‘13 F150 with HDPP has a heavier frame, heavier suspension, heavier shocks, LT tires and brakes that are almost as big as a 3/4. On top of that it has a CCC of 2592 lbs (more than some older 3/4’s) It tows my 8000 scale weight trailer just as well as a 3/4 and has more ccc than some current diesel 3/4’s

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Hogwash.

Your 2013 F-150 has the exact same frame as any other 2013 F-150. Ford did not build any "special" frames for extra-special F-150's. Yours got different brakes, wheels/tires and suspension bolted on. That's it.

My "not special" 2012 F-250 beats your CCC by 1000 pounds. And mine is as plain jane an F-250 as you could get in '12.

Doesn't mean you can't tow with it. But no need for the BS.
 
   / Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong #20,600  
I would say fuel economy, but since your half ton is a gasser and your one ton most probably a diesel, that wont fly...
I don't remember ever worrying about mileage, I don't ever check mileage. The 1 ton is almost always hooked to our food vending trailer so instead of disconnecting it we would use the 1/2 ton truck
 

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