Oil & Fuel Shell TTF-SB hydrostatic trans oil

[JSharp]

To confirm what JT said, no wet clutches or brakes in our little Cubs.

I suspect what Cub did here was simple. The picked a cheap but adequate UTF, probably that has application in their larger units, and had it packaged in a Cub Cadet bottle to make some $$ Not a lot different than Briggs, Kohler, etc. do with their "factory authorized" power equipment oils. None of them are anything special either, mostly they're mediocre.

What bothers me most about this lube is the cold weather properties. The pour point is dismal. I haven't run it through any temp/viscosity calculator but it seems like it would be pretty thick for winter use. Maybe too thick? I was considering buying a snow blower for my 2554 but if I do, I'll probably dump this lube and put in a synthetic that I think would be better suited to winter use...

 

[GreenQuality]

I just bought today a (all most new) pre mtd 2185 before mtd take over!in the owner's manual it states(cub cadet drive system oil meets api service class sg/cd/grade 20w50 specifications.part no# 737-3055

 

[Fordlords]

The 2185 is an MTD built Cub Cadet, that model being first introduced in 1994. All Cub Cadets built after June, 1981 are MTD's. (labeled Cub Cadet Corporation) Yep, MTD has owned the name for that long. The build tag on an International Harvester built pre-June 1981 Cub will read, "International Harvester Corporation."

Here is a fancy oil bottle secret that I learned from a Wal-Mart manager- the low priced oil Wal-Mart sells under their Super-Tech name is made for them by Quaker State in the USA. Back when my 682 was used for snow blowing, there was never any trouble using the recommended hytran fluid, we got it in a 5 gallon pail at a Case/IH tractor dealer, you save a lot of money that way over the fancy bottles.

-Fordlords-

 

[DieselPower]

Errr, if I'm not mistaken Quaker State is not who relabels for Walmart. I believe at last check it was either Ashland or Warren Lubricants who was doing their relabeled oil products. You would need to check the most current MSDS for the exact viscosity and type of oil to see who is actually manufacturing and packaging it.

 

[TractorLarry]

When did Cubs actually become "MTD's" ?

My '95 1864 still has the traditional Cub design. Heavy duty frame, big honkin Sundstrand Hydro, etc...

When were they 'De-Contented' so to speak to MTD standards?

-Larry

The 2185 is an MTD built Cub Cadet, that model being first introduced in 1994. All Cub Cadets built after June, 1981 are MTD's. (labeled Cub Cadet Corporation) Yep, MTD has owned the name for that long. The build tag on an International Harvester built pre-June 1981 Cub will read, "International Harvester Corporation."

Here is a fancy oil bottle secret that I learned from a Wal-Mart manager- the low priced oil Wal-Mart sells under their Super-Tech name is made for them by Quaker State in the USA. Back when my 682 was used for snow blowing, there was never any trouble using the recommended hytran fluid, we got it in a 5 gallon pail at a Case/IH tractor dealer, you save a lot of money that way over the fancy bottles.

-Fordlords-

 

[JTKub]

Larry, your big honkin' 1995 model year is also an MTD product. International Harvester sold off the Cub Cadet division to MTD in June of 1981. Late 90's was the switch over to the newer style design that held to 2006.

Joel

 

[TractorLarry]

Yes, I understand this.

My question is when did MTD start designing their own instead of using previous CCC designs.

-Larry

Larry, your big honkin' 1995 model year is also an MTD product. International Harvester sold off the Cub Cadet division to MTD in June of 1981. Late 90's was the switch over to the newer style design that held to 2006.

Joel

 

[JSharp]

Errr, if I'm not mistaken Quaker State is not who relabels for Walmart. I believe at last check it was either Ashland or Warren Lubricants who was doing their relabeled oil products. You would need to check the most current MSDS for the exact viscosity and type of oil to see who is actually manufacturing and packaging it.

You're right, you have to check the MSDS to be sure. If I'm not mistaken, what's in a Super Tech bottle depends on what part of the country you live in. It could be Warren, or Ashland or I've heard even Exxon/Mobil.

The posts by GreenQuality and peavs along with the data sheet tell me something. A lube like Mobil 1 5W-40 or 15W-50 would probably not just work fine, but might just work better than the CC lube. They'd certainly be better at low temperatures...

 

[JTKub]

Yes, I understand this.

My question is when did MTD start designing their own instead of using previous CCC designs.

-Larry

I believe 1997 was the magical year.

Joel

 

[JTKub]

If I'm not mistaken, what's in a Super Tech bottle depends on what part of the country you live in. It could be Warren, or Ashland or I've heard even Exxon/Mobil...

You're right on the money JS. Wally contracts it out to atleast 3 different vendors. Lowest bidder I'm sure. That said, I still wouldn't hesitate to use Super Tech oil. Problem is, I can still get Kendall GT-1 synth blend cheaper at other stores!

Joel