Shipping container hay barn

   / Shipping container hay barn #31  
Gee, I love those translucent panels and have added them to the last 2 sheds I built. Makes "unpowered" sheds well lite. The problem of the "sweating" is dependent on the location they are being used.
 

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   / Shipping container hay barn #32  
That is a much better drawing than my crappy sketch! I知 going to save that one.
What is your plan for attaching the pony walls to the containers?

I am worried about bracing it against side loads wanting to rack the whole roof structure. I am thinking about using structural steel so that the bracing doesn稚 intrude into the open area of the barn, or will a lean-to style roof over the containers be enough structure to keep it from wanting to parallelogram?

Below is a great pic of the roof of a container for reference. I plan on bolting the pony walls down onto the beam that runs from end to end on the roof. This beam is about an inch shorter than the corners and the corrigated portion of the roof. I'll plane down a treated board so the bottom 2x6 of the pony wall sits flush across the corners and roof and use construction adhesive and through bolts.

I'll put some diagonal bracing front to rear on the pony walls and I think that the lean-to will provide side to side strength.


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#33  
So I am thinking about ordering the 3 point cement mixer from Everything Attachments to pour my footings/piers for this project and the many other projects to follow.
To support a container by the four corners and the eventual 40 foot wide roof structure, modest snow load, and weight of contents, how big do the footings need to be?
Right now, I am planning to dig a 30x30 hole with the backhoe for a footer that is 30” x 30” x 10” thick, and 36 deep at the bottom. Soil is 100% clay with no rocks at all and is virgin land. Is that big enough?
The hole will have 4” of compacted road base in the bottom. It will have a square rebar box to keep it as strong as possible.
Will 3 or 4 pieces of rebar be enough to connect the sono tube pier to the footing in 2 separate pours a day apart?
How much rebar needs to be in the sono tube?
 
   / Shipping container hay barn #34  
Have you guy's "run the numbers"? I've considered building what you're talking about but I already have the containers. Purchasing a pair of $3000+ containers for what really 2 end walls and is a rather awkward size for storage, you end up with stuff in front of stuff, I know. Now they are very secure but if your on a budget, this is not an alternate to cheap weather protection that is reasonably secure (a pole building). That $6-7k for the 2 "can's" would more than pay for the framing materials and I'd include a fair chunk of the cost of the trusses as well.

3L your described footers will be fine and 2-3 bars in each post will be fine. Once backfilled you should only have a simple compression load on your "foundation" as long as your only 10-12" out of the ground. You could also up your psi (concrete mix) of your posts.
 
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#35  
Rustyiron, I agree my plan wouldn’t make sense for most people, but I need secure storage for at least three years before I need the building. I will install one container and add a second a year or two later. Then the roof over both will be added when I need to start storing hay.
 
   / Shipping container hay barn #36  
3L, a few things while selecting your container:
Go inside and close the doors looking for light (holes) and
I'd pay up to $500 more for a good (original) paint job. Bring along a ladder to check out the roof for patch jobs.
 

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