Shop build questions

[Gomer pyle]

And too little sleep will make me mistype. My doors will be on the eaves (48’). Yes, a 16 and 12 on 36 would be tight.
So, 14’ walls with 12’ doors?

I agree about the washing out and don’t think I ever will but I want to give myself options. Plus, I do think I’ll like the protection.
Thanks for the options and ideas

 

[EddieWalker]

You can always go with a scissor trusses to get more height if you need it for a lift. I don't have any interest in a lift for myself, and I've found that 12 foot walls are about as close to perfect height as you can come up with for a wood working shop. I can pick up and handle sheets of plywood without hitting the ceiling. The walls are three sheets of OSB on the edge. A 10 foot tall door fits easily, but if there is no reason to spend the money on a ten foot tall door, 8 foot works too. Most tractors will fit in in an 8 foot tall door, but make sure before committing to either. What would you drive into your shop that you need a 12 foot tall door?

 

[ovrszd]

I have two pieces of equipment that need 12' tall doors. I wouldn't go narrower than 12'. So that would require 14' eaves.

You can get by with 12' eaves and a lift. You just can't lift all the way.

Wall protection, as in running into them is unnecessary. In six months you won't be able to drive anything against the walls.

For my OSB, I laid the first run down, stood next run upright, finished with a 2' run horizontal. So I had three runs, same as Eddie had. Don't use OSB application to determine eave height.

 

[mqualizza]

Gomer can I ask what your shop cost to build?

thanks.

 

[EddieWalker]

I have two pieces of equipment that need 12' tall doors.

I'm curious on what you have that needs 12 foot tall doors? My Ford/New Holland 555E loader backhoe is about 13'6" tall when the hoe is in the upright, driving around position, so I would need a 14 foot door to get that through if I was to drive it into my shop, but I'm going to extend the roof line out the back of my shop with metal trusses set on 12 foot tall posts that will give me a lot more height then what I need. No walls, just posts and a roof extended off of the shop roof. At least that's my current plant.

 

[ovrszd]

My 555A will also fit in a 10' door. But it's silly in the total cost scheme to fight it. 12'.

The road grader I run is 10'8". Not going in a 10' door.

Everyone has different needs and, more importantly, expectations.

Having a leanto on the back of the shop has absolutely nothing to do with the decusion process involved to determine shop/door height.

I'm anxious to see your build!!!

 

[EddieWalker]

Having a leanto on the back of the shop has absolutely nothing to do with the decusion process involved to determine shop/door height.

Not a leanto. The idea is to extend the roofline behind the building to create a massive porch like roofed area to park things that wont fit in the shop like my backhoe and hopefully a 100hp cab tractor with a batwing farther off in the future.

The reason that I bring it up is to offer other options to building a taller building then needed. While bigger is always better, the taller you go, the slower the build becomes, and the more you spend on materials just to have more "air" above you. With 12 foot walls, you can easily have a ten foot tall door that will be more then tall enough for 90% of what most of us have. Obviously there will be those with something taller, and they can either build the entire building tall enough to handle that one or two pieces of equipment, or find another place to put it. I think my idea solves that issue.

 

[ovrszd]

So your "porch" is going to be the same height as the building eave? So how does this space be effective for taller equipment?

Height definitely has a direct bearing on cost.

 

[ovrszd]

I started with a flat ceiling 10'. Then had a 10' eave all steel with vaulted ceiling 12' 8" at the peak. Now in a 14' flat ceiling.

Hopefully I'll never have to go back to a shorter building. The limitations are overbearing. When the total cost of the building is factored in the equation the extra height cost becomes irrelevant.

 

[Gomer pyle]

I had a 10’ tall door at my last shop with 12’ walls but I used steel trusses, so the center was +/-16’. The 10’ door worked on all my current possessions, except the bucket truck I bring home on call(3” from fitting). I don’t have the truck that often (I let the younger ones bring it) but on an ice storm situation, it would be nice to put it inside. I don’t plan to own a camper but I had thought about 12’ door for just in case(pay once, cry once).
With the slope of my land, my lean to will be taller so I could always put taller stuff there.
I have not thought about scissor trusses, I kinda like the idea of 12’ walls with scissor trusses where the lift will go. I did not like the steel trusses on my last shop due to the heat loss and light placement was awkward.

I’m having to use my phone right now, so I’m sure I’m missing some comments, sorry.