Shop/Garage Heater

[RSKY]

This is the ceiling Heater that I am referring to View attachment 534494

And a wall type of heater such as this oneView attachment 534493

Unless your ceiling is 8.5ft or less, the ceiling unit helps a LOT.

Where did that top one come from? That looks like what I need. Two of those in the shop and one in the garage.

RSKY

 

[ovrszd]

My 24x24 two car garage is attached to my house. Insulated with insulated rollups. No heat. Wife has pantry shelves in it. She stores freezable food items there along with bags of potatoes, liquids of various types. Never freezes in there. Not freezing temps in there right now and we've been below zero more nights than not for the past 10 days.

I think you'll be surprised and pleased with your "new" garage after you insulate it.

 

[RSKY]

My 24x24 two car garage is attached to my house. Insulated with insulated rollups. No heat. Wife has pantry shelves in it. She stores freezable food items there along with bags of potatoes, liquids of various types. Never freezes in there. Not freezing temps in there right now and we've been below zero more nights than not for the past 10 days.

I think you'll be surprised and pleased with your "new" garage after you insulate it.

You are probably right. Putting insulation in the walls and ceiling would hold the heat in. Then a small portable radiator type heater could maintain enough temp to do small projects there. We are both about to go crazy sitting here in this weather. Too cold to go outside. Nothing to do in the house.

RSKY

 

[ovrszd]

You are probably right. Putting insulation in the walls and ceiling would hold the heat in. Then a small portable radiator type heater could maintain enough temp to do small projects there. We are both about to go crazy sitting here in this weather. Too cold to go outside. Nothing to do in the house.

RSKY

I hear you my friend. I'm in my shop now, 75 degrees inside, 16 degrees outside. I'd go crazy if I didn't have my heated shop. I may not do anything out here today. Or I may get motivated and work on a project the rest of the day. Either way it's a winner.

Hope you get something going soon. We should get a break from this severe cold weather in the next week or so. My weather guy says by the 15th we'll be under Pacific air flow and should have above normal temps. I'm hoping for a big thaw in late January thru most of February. Last year we didn't have any frost in the ground all thru February.

 

[RSKY]

I hear you my friend. I'm in my shop now, 75 degrees inside, 16 degrees outside. I'd go crazy if I didn't have my heated shop. I may not do anything out here today. Or I may get motivated and work on a project the rest of the day. Either way it's a winner.

Hope you get something going soon. We should get a break from this severe cold weather in the next week or so. My weather guy says by the 15th we'll be under Pacific air flow and should have above normal temps. I'm hoping for a big thaw in late January thru most of February. Last year we didn't have any frost in the ground all thru February.

I have played so many games of "World of Warships" I'm getting my sea legs.

RSKY

 

[RNeumann]

Are these really all they’re supposed to be? I don’t see how 100 percent efficiency can be improved upon.

It’s semantics (electric is 100% efficient) but yes their are ways to make electric heat cheaper.......urrr more efficiently. As an example, heat pumps make more BTUs/kw than traditional resistive heat.

Btw- it’s roughly 1/3 watt per BTU. So if One had a 40,000 BTU (heat output, not total output) gas furnace you would need about 13,000 watts to replace it. But again, sizing will need to be calculated.

 

[grsthegreat]

rhe problem with these cheap heaters, there cheap to buy but expensive to operate. for example, a 5,000 watt electric heater run 50% of the time in cold weather (in reality it would probably never shut off in this cold) would cost
5,000 watt = 5kw per hour
X 12 hours per day = 60 KW
here in idaho we pay .06/kwh for electricity, therefore this heater would cost 3.60 per day to run. that equates to $108.00 per month to heat.

a larger heater wouldnt need to run as long, so is more efficient in the long run. Most electric shop heaters are in the 5,000 watt size, but i have seen a few 7,500 watt ones. the larger ones would need 30 amp circuit draw.

 

[ovrszd]

Having had a heated shop in my backyard since 1994, I'll say this, if you can heat your shop for $100 per month, go for it, doesn't matter what method is used.

Again, I can't stress this enough, efficiency of the building in regards to heat transfer is what should be discussed, not heat source.

 

[grsthegreat]

i wonder how much it would cost to heat a shop with a medium sized pellet stove attached to a thermostat. ... per month

 

[Steppenwolfe]

I have planned for years to install a natural gas line to my shop and one of those ceiling mounted heaters. I also want a ceiling mounted heater in the garage. BUT, our local gas utility has very, very strict rules on who can install lines and appliances. This probably was caused by a couple of houses exploding a few years ago after the homeowners changed something on their lines. I know both of them. One of the guys told me he opened the door and flipped on the light switch and his next thought, before he passed out, was "Where is my house and why am I looking at the sky?". The other guy's wife was killed in the blast.

Anyway, the cost will be very high to have the gas line run from my house, around a patio, over field tile, under a sidewalk, and to the shop. The heater for the garage would be easy to install. Just run a line up the garage wall and mount the heater. So I am considering having a 240-volt ceiling mounted heater installed in both locations. I think it would take years for the higher cost of the electricity to overtake the cost of installing the gas lines and heaters. The garage heater would be set on 40 degrees and would help keep the utility room warm and the vehicles not as uncomfortable when starting out in them. The shop heater would be set just high enough to keep anything from freezing unless I ventured out there to work on something.

Does anybody have this? How much power is used? Are you satisfied with them? How about the sizing for the shop? It is a 24' x 30' insulated building with an upstairs that I intend to close off.

Thanks for your advice.

RSKY

Why not just use propane, and park the tank outside the shop?