Should stores be closed on Thanksgiving?

[Soundguy]

Oh yes KAAA Ching I remember only having Christmas and New Years day off and I could of worked those.

yup.. scored 1 shift on turkey day, and a double on xmas.. and got NYD off. work a double on NYE.. but is regular pay.. but i'm not complaining. just glad to be employed...

 

[murphy1244]

yup.. scored 1 shift on turkey day, and a double on xmas.. and got NYD off. work a double on NYE.. but is regular pay.. but i'm not complaining. just glad to be employed...

From 94 to 2001 I could work as many days and hours I wanted to.

 

[Soundguy]

From 94 to 2001 I could work as many days and hours I wanted to.

from 98 thru oct 2012 I could pretty much as well. that's when my engineering job thru a contractor went south as the contractor lost a large contract.. I picked up work at one of our , then, clients, got a good upper level / working-management position, but took a $ hit that will be a long time ( if ever ) to make up at this point in my life.. If nothing else.. I'll count myself lucky if the job will hold till I retire. Wife can in 4ys.. a bit longer for me....


I've had about all the 'change' from the current administration as I can handle.

 

[tcreeley]

I've worked plenty of holidays- made other's lives happier for it- it is nice to be home.
Restaurants- some like to eat out on holidays, movies- the same. Shopping- that should wait. I heard a pizza store manager in a chain franchise was fired for closing his pizza joint for thanksgiving.
Capitalism- about dollars- minus the family values.

-after college worked for the state in Mass in a children's locked mental health facility. If you were an hour late coming to work the day before a major holiday, or day after- you were docked your holiday. Low wages and car problems did have a habit of costing me money.

 

[joshuabardwell]

I very much doubt that you will find a society anywhere on earth, in our lifetime, which is more to your liking than the one we have right now.

This doesn't say much, as people usually tend to like what they grew up with. If you look at something like the World Happiness Report, for a semi-objective comparison of which countries' citizens are the happiest, the U.S. only comes in 17th, with Mexico actually beating us by one at 16th. Long story short, there are a lot of places in the world where the people who live there are happier than Americans are with where they live.

So then why, as you point out, do so many immigrants come here? It isn't necessarily because they prefer our culture, although sometimes it is. It's by and large because even the lowest-paying job here pays better than the work they can get at home. They want to pick strawberries in California because they can make five times as much as they could working at home, not because they think America Is The Greatest Nation On The Face Of The Earth.

For a lot of the people who work at WalMart or similar jobs, they made a choice, way back when, to live on the lower rungs of the US economic ladder. Everyone in the US has the chance to make this choice.

This is just a fantasy. There are only so many white-collar jobs in the U.S. At this point, we already have far more college graduates than we do jobs for them to fill. There are a lot of people with degrees working at Wal-Mart, sad to say. I'm glad for you that you're not one of them...

 

[Soundguy]

For a lot of the people who work at WalMart or similar jobs, they made a choice, way back when, to live on the lower rungs of the US economic ladder. Everyone in the US has the chance to make this choice.

This is just a fantasy. There are only so many white-collar jobs in the U.S. At this point, we already have far more college graduates than we do jobs for them to fill. There are a lot of people with degrees working at Wal-Mart, sad to say. I'm glad for you that you're not one of them...

I agree. entry level pay jobs are generally not the TARGET of job seekers.. but merely all they can land at the time. Region makes a difference. if there are no jobs in an area.. then you take whatever meager income you can get. A higher education does not guarantee a good job. I know engineers and people with education degrees that are doing sales and or service level jobs... because that's all that's available...

if grocery bagger, shelf stocker, food flipper or door person jobs comprise 99.9999% of the available jobs in your area.. and you need a job. nad you aren't the lucky guy that owns one of the business's that offer those jobs.. you take wht you can.

 

[dave1949]

I've worked plenty of holidays- made other's lives happier for it- it is nice to be home.
Restaurants- some like to eat out on holidays, movies- the same. Shopping- that should wait. I heard a pizza store manager in a chain franchise was fired for closing his pizza joint for thanksgiving.
Capitalism- about dollars- minus the family values.

-after college worked for the state in Mass in a children's locked mental health facility. If you were an hour late coming to work the day before a major holiday, or day after- you were docked your holiday. Low wages and car problems did have a habit of costing me money.

The Pizza Hut employee was offered his job back, after corporate leaned on the franchise owner. Social media probably played a big role in that decision, but they said most Pizza Huts are closed on Thanksgiving and Christmas, so the franchise owner was not in line with corporate "guidelines."

 

[dave1949]

anyone who thins that 'we the people' are still at the helm is drinking the coolaide.

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I did say we have to work at it. Winners never quit, and quitters never win. :laughing:

What's your alternative?

 

[Soundguy]

I did say we have to work at it. Winners never quit, and quitters never win. :laughing:

What's your alternative?

the controls have been wrestled away from 'us'... too many sheep nowadays. not enough thinkers.

so many people want the gov to make their decisions for them and take care of them.

the minority.. ie.. the thinkers that want less govt have an uphill to climb.. both ways, so to speak.

 

[dave1949]

the controls have been wrestled away from 'us'... too many sheep nowadays. not enough thinkers.

so many people want the gov to make their decisions for them and take care of them.

the minority.. ie.. the thinkers that want less govt have an uphill to climb.. both ways, so to speak.

I don't think "less government" is the best goal. Mine would be the right amount of government that works.

Just saying you want less government isn't really a strategy for two reasons: you can have very ineffective and wasteful small government, population and technological growth are pushing us toward more government.

Take the thread about drones for example. That is a whole new ball of wax for privacy, law enforcement and 4th Amendment concerns brought on by new technology. The FAA gets involved, law enforcement wants something from it, politicians are not great at comprehending new technology, nor are judges.

That new technology is going to just keep coming and government ultimately has to get involved unless you want anarchy or some third-world worthy mess.

More population density creates more issues too.