Snowmachines on Private land

   / Snowmachines on Private land #21  
The tresspassers should appologize. They created this situation.
 
   / Snowmachines on Private land #22  
The tresspassers should appologize. They created this situation.

The guy did apologize and the farmer hit him (in the helmet:laughing:). If that sledder was a weenie he could have pressed charges.

There was no way to make this situation any better, the farmer lost control. Lucky the video didn't catch him pointing the gun at anybody or he'd be in jail. I can understand how a guy could get fed up with trespassers, but he was out of control, and all of them were lucky the sledders didn't pull guns out.
 
   / Snowmachines on Private land #23  
I would say the farmer was well within his rights as a land owner and the kids on the sleds should be confiscated and sleds sold to pay for clean up and ground/fence restoration on the farmers place!

Sleds and ATVers are destructive to peace and to the land. Often tossing trash as they go leaving beer cans or bottles & trash on land owners.

Did anyone read the part where one of the sled riders ran over his cat? Ya I would have put a deer slug into each engine & let em walk out.

Mark

I agree they would not get off so easy in Ohio.
 
   / Snowmachines on Private land #24  
The guy did apologize and the farmer hit him (in the helmet:laughing:). If that sledder was a weenie he could have pressed charges.

There was no way to make this situation any better, the farmer lost control. Lucky the video didn't catch him pointing the gun at anybody or he'd be in jail. I can understand how a guy could get fed up with trespassers, but he was out of control, and all of them were lucky the sledders didn't pull guns out.

I agree, he had every right to be upset but they weren't even on his property. He should tell the sledders to turn around and go back. Where he went over the line was to kick the sled and then whack at the guy who was asking what the problem was. He went over the line but he should just get his wrist slapped.
JMO
 
   / Snowmachines on Private land #25  
What happened to the rest of the tape?
 
   / Snowmachines on Private land #26  
I can't get the video to run but was struck by the tresspassers comment that he knew he was tresspassing and he f bombeb the farmer before he got slapped.
 
   / Snowmachines on Private land #27  
Sled riders that trespass without caring they are in the wrong will always defend these type of people.
Land owners who continually are trespassed against and have seen the actions of the others again and again will always side with the landowner.
There is more to the story than what has been presented and it is edited to show what the releaser of the video wanted it to show.
If you own one of the machines ride on your own land if you have it, buy some land, or ride in places that are marked for public use. Do not presume to think that your enjoyment of any activity gives you a right to infringe others property rights.
 
   / Snowmachines on Private land #28  
The #1 mistake the farmer made was not put a sling on his shotgun. The moment you carry it like that, people will feel threatened. Slung over the shoulder, less likely.

Who knows how many times this mans land is violated ? In hunting season, it is not unusual to find trespassers on 6 - 8 occasions and that just happens to be when you and them are out there at the same time.. Usually those trespassers are armed and in full camo. The landowner and his wife got a full on cussing by a group of trespassers who were armed and they were not. I bumped into the same group of guys sitting right on the fenceline in tree stands, facing onto the property they had no rights to hunt. It was clear what they were doing, but law enforcement will not do anything unless you present them with evidence of having poached on your land. I WAS carrying an AR-15 and I did not get a cussing, but they were pretty upset with me anyhow and they tried to tell me to stay out the area, but I read them my letter of "designation" for predator hunting from the owner and said that I would be in their faces regularly so long as I could find coyote tracks in the area. All except 1 moved off into other locations on the 280 acres that they lease that butts up to the property in question, but that 1 guy has illegally hunted the same spot for 30 years and will not be moved and LE will do nothing about it.

We have estimated that they probably take about 24-26 deer off the property a year, especially during bow season, when the deer are "tame" and that runs from September to Nov 15. Then shotgun season for another 2 weeks and then Muzzle loader for another month. If we try to put out game cameras to cover the fence row in question, they just disappear. The only thing that might work are wireless cameras that transmit the images to a remote server, but for the distances in question, that is a pretty major investment.
 
   / Snowmachines on Private land #29  
And even better, it turns out this assault in the video did NOT even take place on his land, he left his own property with his shotgun, then trespassed on his neighbours land to chase these snowmobilers down.

He has no grounds to do what he did.

Are you chastising the land owner for trespassing on his neighbors land and giving the snowmobilers a free ride? Aren't the riders somewhat culpable?
 
   / Snowmachines on Private land #30  
I think the Guy was set up myself.

I think that's a good possibility. He doesn't seem very rational. Or maybe the whole thing is a poorly acted spoof of some kind?

What/who was the person standing by the car parked at the end of the road/driveway at the very end of the video?
 

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