So would you buy a new GM truck now?

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   / So would you buy a new GM truck now? #31  
I currently own two GM products. I have found GM vehicles are good as, or better than the competition. The only down side as I see it is the large amount added to the cost of each vehicle to fulfill UAW obligations. Prior to retirement and after retirement I paid quite a large amount each month for a “Family Health Insurance Plan” and a Dental Plan”. In conservations with other they also pay for individual and family health and dental insurance coverage. The plans I had and still have includes co-payments for Doctor’s visits and prescription medication. As I understand it we as consumers pay for current UAW workers their families and UAW retirees and their families’ health and dental insurance and their out of pocket cost is zero. We also pay a certain amount on each vehicle for the “No Job Lost” in the UAW contract. Prior to retirement when I was working I did not have such a job guarantee. Others I have talked to also did not have a guaranteed job where salary, health insurance, dental insurance, retirement benefits and seniority continued even when I was not working.

A couple of years ago my wife and I were in Florida on vacation. We stopped in the Denny’s Restaurant in Cocoa Beach Florida one morning for breakfast. A large crowd was in the circular booth next to us and one of the gentlemen in the crowd was relating in a loud voice how he and his wife worked for GM and had not worked on the assembly line for a couple of years. He also stated his and her salary, health and dental benefits, retirement and job seniority continued all because of his outstanding UAM no “Job Cut or Loss” contract and union representation. Needless to say I drove away from the restaurant in a GM vehicle with the feeling I had been taken advantage of.

My thoughts today are “No Tax Money for the Auto Industry”. I think individuals associated with the auto industry should have to do as I and others do, pay at least a portion of their health, dental and retirement coverage. I cannot see why I should have to provide such coverage for myself and them. They, the auto companies should if unable to arrange private financing be allowed to go into bankruptcy and reorganize therefore eliminating the costly UAW costs added to each vehicle. I will take my chances on warranty repairs on the two GM vehicles I currently own. I have owned in the past and currently own items that required warranty repairs after a company filled for bankruptcy protection. If you have flown on an airliner lately you either flew on a plane owned by a company in bankruptcy or recently out of the bankruptcy constraints. Where you worried about warranty repairs on the aircraft when you were flying? They say foreign car manufactures are not having the financial problems Americans automobile manufactures’ are having. I wonder why?
 
   / So would you buy a new GM truck now? #32  
I was very disapointed that GM didn't take advantage of the last strike to completely break the union. They could have.

That being said, GM will be around selling trucks for quite some time to come. I'd have noproblems buying another GM truck. My first one (an 05 Avalanche) has been pretty good.
 
   / So would you buy a new GM truck now? #33  
I think now is the time to be buying American. I would encourage anyone who is considering a new vehicle puchase to look at one of the big 3. I think it is time that the CEO's and the union make some sacrifices and save their company. We all are going to have make some sacrifices to bring this economy back around. I would hate to see the day that all we could buy in this country is a foreign owned vehicle.
 
   / So would you buy a new GM truck now? #34  
I agree. I'd rather see bankruptcy and reorganization without the UAW and rediculous upper management salaries than the gov't loaning them more money to keep the business going as usual.

I just heard that even with the loans, they would only sustain the big 3 for less than 1 year.
 
   / So would you buy a new GM truck now? #35  
It is amazing to me that no one ever complains about the millions that the Asians are raking in, but will complain when an American company does well. In any case, I buy from the Big Three because I like their products better and have always had good reliability out of them. I've never bought an extended warranty for my vehicles and have never needed it. I also keep my vehicles for 10+ years.
 
   / So would you buy a new GM truck now? #36  
I agree. I'd rather see bankruptcy and reorganization without the UAW and rediculous upper management salaries than the gov't loaning them more money to keep the business going as usual.

I just heard that even with the loans, they would only sustain the big 3 for less than 1 year.

Sit down, I agree with you 100%. :eek: :D

Besides, you ought to hear the rumors (and that's all they are) of how the top execs are planning on stashing all they can personally if they get the money from the government because they know the UAW will still take them down, as you mentioned. There's all sorts of, um, creative bookkeeping methods where a decent amount of money can disappear.
 
   / So would you buy a new GM truck now? #37  
I'm not picking on GM by posting this article clip, but rather because I've seen several ads lately by GM saying that GMAC is making millions of dollars available to customers to buy new vehicles. According to S&P in this Automotive News article, GMAC isn't exactly stable.

I don't have it in print right in front of me, but I understand that Ford and Chrysler's financial divisions are in similar conditions.
 

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   / So would you buy a new GM truck now? #38  
Now is a great time to buy if you can/or need a good truck or vehicle. I am looking for a replacement for my wife's Acura MDX. We have had three of them, and they have all been good cars. Interestingly, they no longer seem to hold their resale QUITE as well as they did. We generally like to trade around 80,000 give or take and my wife's car has about 92,000 on it. If I were buying an SUV to replace my wife's Acura right now, I would buy a GMC Denali SWB. I think overall, for comfort, power, features, quality, towing, long trip comfort and quality, it is about the best one can get--right now. I have looked at them pretty closely, but the two things that hold me back are the potential for spotty resale and the thought of GM going bankrupt and not getting good follow up service or warranty work during a restructuing period.

John M
 
   / So would you buy a new GM truck now? #39  
We only have imnported PU here in Germany, but US builded ones you only see a few. Sometimes older armytrucks or used imported.

If I see the prices of a PU in the USA I become jelous. They are awfully cheap and I do not know, why they never have been offered here. Let us not speak about the Gasoline engines, but as Diesel and registrated as a Truck, they would sell here, if the price had been the same or maybe a bit higher then in USA.

The onliest Chevy we can buy here are the Daewoo, some of them made in Poland.

Daewoo pushed a lot of scrap overhere (i.E. the espero) and never had the Reputation that Kia or Hyundai had.

Opel is part of GM and was Nr. 1 in sales in the 70 with the Record, Kadett, the first Manta and Ascona. But then they lost sales, when the US Management decided, which cars should be the best for the germany market.

The first Diesel was ****. The Blitz, a light truck,

Opel Blitz Bilder

was the bestseller in the 1,5 to Class, long before Mercedes made a truck like the Blitz.
They made experiments with an Indenor Diesel and did not have any sucsess. So the Blitz project died. The Corsa came to late to beat Fords Fiesta or the VW Golf.

Ford has US Mothership, too, but the european Management makes decission what to do.
so they went from the Granada, which had a bit US design

http://members.tripod.com/~drdesign/consul1a.jpg

to the Sierra

Ford Improves Availability Of New Parts For Older Models

Introduced the Fiesta

http://www.meinekarre.de/cars/Ford_Fiesta_Euro.jpg

very fast.

Ford is the onliest US related Brand which offers the Ranger and has sucsss with doing so.
 
   / So would you buy a new GM truck now? #40  
Yes I would. I have confidence in GM, and also want to do my part to keep them around for years to come.
 
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