Fuddy1952
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I think I'd contact your insurance agent and have an electrician fix it. Right now it sounds screwy.
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I'm sure the breakers did their job but they are no longer doing it. The welder breaker did not trip in the garage which strikes me as odd.
When I shut off the main, if there was a short in the line some place, the breakers should have held as no current was running. That they didn't, tells me the breakers got fried. They look like this:
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Then that is a problem. The welder breaker should trip before the main unless the welder breaker is bigger. If there is a short there will be current to ground or neutral and possibly cause a fire. You could disconnect the wires from the breaker going to the garage and see if the breaker will hold then.
But I agree with Fuddy, it is time for an electrician to give you proper power to the garage if you are going to be running a welder and other equipment. Then you could look at upgrading to a 220 unit.
I may be overly cautious but I have seen enough electrical fires in my life and don't want that to happen to you. :thumbsup:
But I agree with Fuddy, it is time for an electrician to give you proper power to the garage if you are going to be running a welder and other equipment. Then you could look at upgrading to a 220 unit.
I may be overly cautious but I have seen enough electrical fires in my life and don't want that to happen to you. :thumbsup:
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IF one kills mains ( 100 or 200 amp), and the down stream breaker will not reset, the problem is the down stream breaker.....
And it could be only one of the two ganged breakers, but replace the pair if either or both found defective...
Our local museum had a proble with one breaker, it was turn off manually and some work was done on a receptacle, and when we tried to power up break it would not hold.... Wiring was good, breaker failed, nasty part was we had to replace a 3 phase style breaker that only was serving two 120V circuits....
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Then yes I would agree. My concern is why did it burn that breaker instead of tripping the welder breaker? I get if a breaker is weak or worn but it still should be checked. I am glad you have an electrician in the family coming to help. Good luck!
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My next step is to see what I can do to 220 volt the welding socket and forego the thought of a cheaper flux core welder. Even if I never use gas, I believe my best bet is to go with a more solid wire feeder such as a 210 Hobart or Lincoln.
I don't know enough of the quality of alternative branding but think Esab, Forney and Miller also to be good.
I have a Chinese stick welder and I feel it has put a bad taste in my mouth for inverters made in that country.
I'm sure there are some brands that are good made in China but I am ignorant of them.
My next step is to see what I can do to 220 volt the welding socket and forego the thought of a cheaper flux core welder. Even if I never use gas, I believe my best bet is to go with a more solid wire feeder such as a 210 Hobart or Lincoln.
I don't know enough of the quality of alternative branding but think Esab, Forney and Miller also to be good.
I have a Chinese stick welder and I feel it has put a bad taste in my mouth for inverters made in that country.
I'm sure there are some brands that are good made in China but I am ignorant of them.
WranglerX
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China is really good at making products to "specification"... IF bulk buyer specifies cheap product you get cheap product.... As I hate to say it, but its not all about China quality...
My top names are Lincoln, Hobart, Miller, ESAB....
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Arrow, not "talking down" to you but have you tried turning the breakers FURTHER OFF (firmly) and THEN trying to reset (turn on) ? Most breakers (unless they get a HUGE surge current) don't turn off far enough to engage the pawl that turns 'em back on... Steve (this does NOT apply if they look burned, that's a SURE sign you need new ones)
