Starlink

   / Starlink #3,491  
I've been paying attention to SL discussions in forums, Reddit and FB groups for more than the past 2 years and I've not heard any critical mass of people who signed up for the unlimited data. Can't even recall anyone who said that, TBH. It was pretty well predicted that data caps in some fashion would be implemented as it grew. Not saying there weren't people who had other reliable ISP options but choose SL for data volumes, but I can't believe it was "a lot of people". Regardless, any folks will have to evaluate their cost/benefit of SL versus their other options and choose what works for them. At least they still have options. For you and me, with hardly any other ISP, SL is pretty much it. I have LTE but that has more drawbacks.
I signed up because it was offered with unlimited data, faster speed, and lower latency than our cell phones and whs. We have 145 gigs and usually run out by the end of the cycle. So you can mark me up as one who has said unlimited data is a reason I signed up. I think I put a deposit down in late 2021 or very early 2022 and I still don't have a dish yet. I'm waiting for regular residential service, not best effort.
 
   / Starlink #3,492  
My speeds are back down again tonight to 13 mbps. This did not start being noticeable until last week. I am on regular residential but it is acting like I am on best effort. I do not have a better option at all but it is disappointing after having no issues till now.
 
   / Starlink #3,494  
Some weird stuff has been happening on our StarLink network. Mainly with my wife’s devices (Samsung tablet and MotoZ phone). The devices connect to the network but have no internet access. If I throw the devices into Airplane mode, then enable WiFi, then take it off Airplane, they work. . . For a while, then the Internet drops again.

if anyone has any thoughts or suggestions?

otherwise I am doing a factory reset back to stinky and start all over again. . .

this started shortly after that balloon flew (almost) over our house. I a, sure that had nothing to do with it. . .
 
   / Starlink #3,495  
Let me put this another way. Who here wants to pay more for anything so other families can pay less for what is potentially better service? I have been selling things for 50 plus years. My Dad made me sit through slide presentations when I was 10-15 yrs old. Nowhere in any of my years of sales have I ever heard a salesman say you will pay more so others can pay less. What's next? Internet reparation?

But we arent paying more so others can pay less. Others are paying less because the company is giving that area a discount to try and get more users. It has nothing to do with us. We are paying more because of simple supply and demand.
 
   / Starlink #3,496  
Some weird stuff has been happening on our StarLink network. Mainly with my wife’s devices (Samsung tablet and MotoZ phone). The devices connect to the network but have no internet access. If I throw the devices into Airplane mode, then enable WiFi, then take it off Airplane, they work. . . For a while, then the Internet drops again.

if anyone has any thoughts or suggestions?

otherwise I am doing a factory reset back to stinky and start all over again. . .

this started shortly after that balloon flew (almost) over our house. I a, sure that had nothing to do with it. . .
Starlink has been having issues with a couple of recent software updates. You might want to file a support ticket on it. In the meantime, I would gently and respectfully suggest that your wife just puts them into airplane mode with WiFi only, while around the house. It may be that Samsung is trying to prioritize cellular access, and something changed at your local cell tower (tuning, antenna orientation...) that makes them think that they have service when they don't.

All the best,

Peter
 
   / Starlink #3,497  
Two questions for all of you who are running your Starlink router in bypass mode;

What are your ping times to your dish (i.e. 100.64.0.1)?

What sort of packet loss do you have to Dishy? (E.g.my 4,000 second ping has a loss of 1.8%)

(Why am I asking? Well, we've been having issues, and I ran a long ping test to three nodes, in order of distance;
Starlink router, 1.2ms ping, 0 packets lost.
Dishy, 48ms, ~2% loss
DNS server, 60ms, 2.2% packet loss.)

In my naive view of the world, there should be 0% loss to Dishy, and the ping time should be closer to 2-2.5ms. Moreover, if the ping time to Dishy is really 48ms, then the ping to the DNS server should be closer to 48+25=73ms+, when you factor in satellite overhead.

So, does a Dishy ping get answered by a Starlink ground station?

Just sign me struggling with issues that don't make sense...

Peter
 
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   / Starlink #3,498  
Some weird stuff has been happening on our StarLink network. Mainly with my wife’s devices (Samsung tablet and MotoZ phone). The devices connect to the network but have no internet access. If I throw the devices into Airplane mode, then enable WiFi, then take it off Airplane, they work. . . For a while, then the Internet drops again.

if anyone has any thoughts or suggestions?

otherwise I am doing a factory reset back to stinky and start all over again. . .

this started shortly after that balloon flew (almost) over our house. I a, sure that had nothing to do with it. . .
When this happens it is only to 1 or 2 devices? The rest of the devices on the LAN can connect to the Internet OK at that time? Do those affected devices have decent bars of wifi connection at the time? Does your LAN have only the Starlink router or do you have other wifi devices such as a mesh network?
 
   / Starlink #3,499  
But we arent paying more so others can pay less. Others are paying less because the company is giving that area a discount to try and get more users. It has nothing to do with us. We are paying more because of simple supply and demand.
All companies are in business to make money. They have to make money to survive and it is the generally accepted motivation to put up with the expense and aggravation of producing a product or providing a service. In this case 2 people receive the "same" service. One person (group A) gets a rate hike. The other (group B) gets a reduction so his neighbor will join. How does that not feel like group A is subsidizing group B? Is not the increase in revenue from Group A negating the cost of the reduced revenue from group B?
The answer looks pretty obvious to me.
 
   / Starlink #3,500  
When I got our notice, the first thing I thought of was that we were subsidising the $$$$ discount TESLA offered on their cars a few months ago.
Patrick
That or paying for Elon’s $44B Twitter purchase fiasco.
 

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