ym2610
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Hi scesnick, never a dumb question on here, I know because I have ask them /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif OK a question for you, what kind of tractor do you have, or did I miss that one somewhere, just wondering. Robert
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I have a 1500d and the compression release is a rod with a 90 degree bend in it just below the dash on the left side. You need to turn it not pull it. This will release compression to warm cylinders. After cranking for approximately 15 seconds, release handle. This will close release. Make sure you have fuel handle around mid way open.
cwarrix
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( O.K This may be a dumb queston but, I'm gonna ask anyway. This decompression lever, is it the same lever that shuts down the motor? or am I missing something??? )</font>
Like others have told me before, there are no dumb question, except the ones you don't ask. The lever you use to shut down the motor is probably the throttle. It's the same one you have to open up (or pull back some) to get it to start. It is on the right side of the dash. Pull it back to go fast, push forward to slow down, all the way forward to kill it (maybe, might be different for your tractor.) The decompression lever on mine is under the dash on the left side. You don't have to use it all the time to start the tractor, maybe just when it's very cold. You don't use the decompression lever to stop the motor, just to help start it. It will not start with this lever engaged. You just crank it for a few seconds with the lever engaged so it turns over nice and easy (no compression) and then turn it off, and start as the regular way.
Hope that helps, it would help if we knew what kind of tractor you have /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Chuck
Like others have told me before, there are no dumb question, except the ones you don't ask. The lever you use to shut down the motor is probably the throttle. It's the same one you have to open up (or pull back some) to get it to start. It is on the right side of the dash. Pull it back to go fast, push forward to slow down, all the way forward to kill it (maybe, might be different for your tractor.) The decompression lever on mine is under the dash on the left side. You don't have to use it all the time to start the tractor, maybe just when it's very cold. You don't use the decompression lever to stop the motor, just to help start it. It will not start with this lever engaged. You just crank it for a few seconds with the lever engaged so it turns over nice and easy (no compression) and then turn it off, and start as the regular way.
Hope that helps, it would help if we knew what kind of tractor you have /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Chuck
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scesnick
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O.K. , Boy do I feel dumb now !!! My decompression lever is also on the dash, sort of by my left knee. I thought that was the way to shut down the tractor. I guess because my back hoe has a fuel cutoff lever that is very simular in the same place. i never really put 2 and 2 together...( just got the tractor)
Anyhoo, I understand how it works now. I usually shut the tractor off with the throttle fully forward anyway.
YM 2610, I have a YM 2000.
I did go out and check my thermo start today. I know that usually to operate the thermostart you turn the key to the left , But,, The previous owner was a tinkerer and he put a toggle switch on it for this chore. I opened up the air cleaner and could see the cigarette lighter looking ignitor but nothing happened when I hit the botton. I then turn the key to the left to see if that did anything. Still nothing.
Any advice on what to do next???
Anyhoo, I understand how it works now. I usually shut the tractor off with the throttle fully forward anyway.
YM 2610, I have a YM 2000.
I did go out and check my thermo start today. I know that usually to operate the thermostart you turn the key to the left , But,, The previous owner was a tinkerer and he put a toggle switch on it for this chore. I opened up the air cleaner and could see the cigarette lighter looking ignitor but nothing happened when I hit the botton. I then turn the key to the left to see if that did anything. Still nothing.
Any advice on what to do next???
I'm not familliar with the thermostart, but I'd check for 12v to the switch, then out of the switch to the lighter thingy....
I wouldnt use this method if I had the T/S system, but I just remembered another starting aid I have seen used.. You can take a rag with some gasoline on it and hold it in front otf the intake.
Now, for those that are not familliar, a diesel has a great deal of compression and in some cases might be able to suck the rag from your hand and maybe leave you a nice hicky on your hand too. So be carefull.. But then again for saftey, you should be in your seat while trying to start it..... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I wouldnt use this method if I had the T/S system, but I just remembered another starting aid I have seen used.. You can take a rag with some gasoline on it and hold it in front otf the intake.
Now, for those that are not familliar, a diesel has a great deal of compression and in some cases might be able to suck the rag from your hand and maybe leave you a nice hicky on your hand too. So be carefull.. But then again for saftey, you should be in your seat while trying to start it..... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
normde2001
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"Any advice on what to do next???"
Get out your volt/ohm meter and troubleshoot.
Get out your volt/ohm meter and troubleshoot.
mark777
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That's what I was thinking...VOM the switch, toggle and lead to the heat element. The thermostart is a very nice feature to have when the temp drops to below 40*.
Lately, I've heard people using propane (torch bottled) blown into the intake....I haven't tried this but don't see why it wouldn't assist in cold start problems.
Lately, I've heard people using propane (torch bottled) blown into the intake....I haven't tried this but don't see why it wouldn't assist in cold start problems.
arthr31
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Mark,
I started my 1601 last winter this way before I installed the TS... I had the tractor stuck out in the woods (wouldn't start, too cold) so a friend and I took the hose off the air intake and heated up the intake manifold a bit with the torch... It works, but you kinda need two people to keep the heat going and then the engine cranking...
As an occassional or emergency starting aid, sure, long-term, I chose to get the TS installed... Now the tractor starts pretty OK in 20F weather...
Scesnick, where are you, how cold are your ambient temps? I'd recommend getting the TS working... If you need to replace the element, several of the dealers here (Hoye and LMTC) have these ... easy to install too! Good luck. -Art
I started my 1601 last winter this way before I installed the TS... I had the tractor stuck out in the woods (wouldn't start, too cold) so a friend and I took the hose off the air intake and heated up the intake manifold a bit with the torch... It works, but you kinda need two people to keep the heat going and then the engine cranking...
As an occassional or emergency starting aid, sure, long-term, I chose to get the TS installed... Now the tractor starts pretty OK in 20F weather...
Scesnick, where are you, how cold are your ambient temps? I'd recommend getting the TS working... If you need to replace the element, several of the dealers here (Hoye and LMTC) have these ... easy to install too! Good luck. -Art
greatrandini
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I bet someone left the toggle switch on and burned up the element. I would get a new one and replace it too! I would get rid of the toggle switch even if I had to order a new igniton switch from Hoye...
Just what I would do!!
Just what I would do!!