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[EddieWalker]

I didn't think of this until just now, but why would you want GFI outlets in a shop? The only places I put them in are bathrooms and near kitchen sinks.

I had a client once with one behind his fridge in his garage. It went off, but he didn't know he had a GFI outlet and I had a heck of a time figuring out why a light that I put in his crawl space wouldn't turn on.

I like the industrial outlets in a shop, but honestly don't know if you'd ever wear out a regular one. Has anybody ever seen that happen?

Eddie

 

[em14]

Eddie,
Here in this county (Alachua, Florida) I had to install GIF protected outlets in the shop to meet local code so he may have the same requirement. So in effect all my 110v inside shop and outside outlets are GIF protected.
Leo

 

[BayouMan]

Eddie,

I too have had a similar experience with GFI's. As mentioned, if this is a permitted job, Roger may have to use GFI's. New homes in our area are even required to use GFI breakers for bedroom circuits now. Go figure!

I like the concept of GFI's, but they can have expensive consequences, ie; freezer goes down while you are out of town, etc. The other issue is they will trip if they are in a moist environment.

 

[Bird]

I like the concept of GFI's, but they can have expensive consequences, ie; freezer goes down while you are out of town, etc. The other issue is they will trip if they are in a moist environment.

Yeah, I like the concept, too. My first experience with GFI breakers was the first new house we owned, and of course, I knew absolutely nothing about them. After a year or so, I couldn't turn on my electric razor in the bathroom without that breaker kicking off immediately. Since I couldn't figure any other reason for it kicking off, I decided the breaker itself must be defective. So I go to Graybar Electric and tell the counterman I need a new breaker. I've forgotten exactly what that breaker cost, but when he told me, it was a very big shock (no pun intended). So he asked me why I needed it, I told him, and he said it would be very unusual for one to go bad like that and I should check all the outlets on that breaker first. When I removed the covers on the outlets just outside both the front and back doors, there was a little bit of cobwebs in each of them. I blew them out with my air compressor, put the covers back on, and never had that breaker kick off again. The guy at Graybar had told me that just normal humidity on cobwebs could cause my problem, and of course, he was right.

 

[Inspector507]

Eddie,

New homes in our area are even required to use GFI breakers for bedroom circuits now. Go figure!

GFI's are not required in bedrooms but Arc Faults are (AFCI). Whole different animal.

 

[gemini5362]

Eddie concrete is a pretty good conductor to ground. if you get a short in something and you touch a hot lead with one hand while you have another hand resting on the ground that might be a big problems for you. What if you were washing your car on the driveway with the garage door open and water flowd into the garage and found a extension cord that rodents had eaten the insulation on. Other posters have been correct you only need one per leg then all of the other outlets are protected. Roger has a lot of money in his garage the cost of 3 or 4 GFI outlets ( if he even needs that many) is nothing compared to sheetrock costs, roofing costs, lumber costs, etc. Not spending the extra 15 or 20 dollars total for GFI outlets is not cost or safety effective.

 

[gemini5362]

Eddie,

I too have had a similar experience with GFI's. As mentioned, if this is a permitted job, Roger may have to use GFI's. New homes in our area are even required to use GFI breakers for bedroom circuits now. Go figure!

I like the concept of GFI's, but they can have expensive consequences, ie; freezer goes down while you are out of town, etc. The other issue is they will trip if they are in a moist environment.

Ever seen anyone spill their soda or coffee or water on a tv or radio etc in a bedroom ?

 

[mudcat]

I didn't think of this until just now, but why would you want GFI outlets in a shop? The only places I put them in are bathrooms and near kitchen sinks.

I had a client once with one behind his fridge in his garage. It went off, but he didn't know he had a GFI outlet and I had a heck of a time figuring out why a light that I put in his crawl space wouldn't turn on.

I like the industrial outlets in a shop, but honestly don't know if you'd ever wear out a regular one. Has anybody ever seen that happen?

Eddie

Personal protection!
Article 210.8(A)(2)of the N.E.C. requires all 110v single phase outlets in garages or accessory buildings (pole barns, shops, storage) be GFCI protected.

 

[roermo]

ok I will open myself up to a lot of feed back here with this one.

I am in real estate and have seen a lot of changes over 25 years.

It was mentioned a few posts back about ground faults in the bedrooms, then some one eles said no arch protection, then I thought I do remember that.

What I was told about in a bedroom or shop is if something would fall behind a plug that was not all the pluged in, it would trip better, not to mention water soda etc.

Now this brings to to a hot topic I think.

does the ground prong go up or down, I have seen both all the time. I was told (again) up, that way a fork would not rest across the other two prongs.

Ok now its time to teach me one more time a wealth of information again.

Thanks all

Roger

 

[Farwell]

Before you spend a bunch of money on GFI receptacles, in the near future there is a new type of safety plug coming out required for all new construction. I do not remember what it is called but if I find out I will post it on this thread.
David B