Stihl 4 mix vs Echo 2 stroke

[TomSeller]

Just used it this evening. Dang..... that sucker goes through limbs like a knife through hot butter.

Those Stihl pole saws sure do. Way better than trying to use a hand pole saw!

 

[bigtiller]

By the way just bought this 4mix pole saw last night. Was used one time and the owner said was too heavy for him. He was a very small man. Less than 5' tall and couldn't been over 100lbs. so I can see why. Had original receipt for when purchased last month for close to $700 but sold it to me for $450. Will try it out this weekend.

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Is that the HT101? I just bought one last week and used it for the first time Monday. Nice saw! I put mine in the Gator and hauled it from tree to tree.

 

[sawtooth]

Yes it is. I was told the one with the larger engine (next model up) cuts faster due to faster chain speed but don't know for sure. But what I do know is this thing works great and seems to cut great to me. Maybe a commercial user might need the bigger engine but honestly I don't see a need for it.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Getting ready to buy a trimmer. Any thoughts on these two engine designs?

My black pack blowers use the 4-mix and they are all going strong. I have a 4.0hp Stihl brush cutter which has been okay with the exception of needing to clean out its muffler from time to time despite using the correct fuel and still 2-stroke oil. Their sting cutters are either too heavy, or break their shaft drives.

I like these guys. Good engine, lightweight, reasonable life and everything runs on the non-oxygenated premixed with Stihl's synthetic 2-stroke oil at 50:1.

Amazon.com : Tanaka TCG22EAP2SL 2-Cycle Gas Powered Solid Steel Drive Shaft String Trimmer/Brush Cutter, 21cc : Patio, Lawn & Garden

Same trimmer is sold as a Hitachi as well.

 

[sawtooth]

Last night I got to wondering if the original owner was using the correct synthetic "Stihl Ultra" oil that the 4 mix requires and noticed the fuel smelled sour. So I poured it out and man it looked totally brown with a foul smell. I can't believe it would even run. So I put in premium fuel 90 octane or higher per manual. Plus used 100% gas with no ethanol. That sucker cranks first pull now. So glad I drained it and put fresh fuel in it.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Those Stihl pole saws sure do. Way better than trying to use a hand pole saw!

Yeah?

 

[sawtooth]

Nice pole saw but you ain't going to keep up with me on 3-12" stuff Bubba. BUT thanks for posting cause we do carry in a manual pole saw for real high work and I'm going to buy one of those.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Nice pole saw but you ain't going to keep up with me on 3-12" stuff Bubba. BUT thanks for posting cause we do carry in a manual pole saw for real high work and I'm going to buy one of those.

Are you doing bucket work?

Jameson also has foam-filled yellow stick poles for linesmen, as well as those people working around power lines clearing.

 

[sawtooth]

No sir. We are mainly doing stuff for deer hunting clearing shooting lanes etc. some stuff is pretty high so we usually carry in multiple items to get the work done.

 

[TomSeller]

Yeah?

YouTube Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kw0-r5Pzro

Nice video but I'll keep recycling dinosaurs . I'm too lazy I guess.

 

[4570Man]

Nice pole saw but you ain't going to keep up with me on 3-12" stuff Bubba. BUT thanks for posting cause we do carry in a manual pole saw for real high work and I'm going to buy one of those.

But you ain't going to keep up with him on stuff 20" high.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

But you ain't going to keep up with him on stuff 20" high.

And he won't keep up with me on the small stuff like I showed in the video stuff lugging that heavy saw around.

On the other hand, a Jameson set up costs as nearly as much as a powered pole saw and so each to their own.

 

[two_bit_score]

And he won't keep up with me on the small stuff like I showed in the video stuff lugging that heavy saw around.

On the other hand, a Jameson set up costs as nearly as much as a powered pole saw and so each to their own.

Do you know what the different colors mean on the Jameson poles?

 

[TomSeller]

And he won't keep up with me on the small stuff like I showed in the video stuff lugging that heavy saw around.

On the other hand, a Jameson set up costs as nearly as much as a powered pole saw and so each to their own.

I don't find 20lbs heavy but understand that some might. When trimming high branches I might spend maybe an hour, unlike the handle time on a chainsaw which may be 8 to 10 hours a day. I have the combi so the powerhead is also used for other tools. The hand pruners are great but not for 6"+ limbs in my book. If 20lbs is heavy for an hour, maybe eat your Wheaties that day?

 

[Clay45]

20lbs Ten feet away gets heavy fast.

 

[TomSeller]

20lbs Ten feet away gets heavy fast.

Holding the whole pole saw 10' away would be an issue but I don't see the relevancy. Holding it as you would when using it with the powerhead behind you and the pole extension in front of you is how it is typically used.

 

[two_bit_score]

Holding the whole pole saw 10' away would be an issue but I don't see the relevancy. Holding it as you would when using it with the powerhead behind you and the pole extension in front of you is how it is typically used.

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TBS

 

[TomSeller]

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TBS

That's an option as well. It certainly isn't 20lbs at 10'

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Do you know what the different colors mean on the Jameson poles?

Sure.

http://www.wctproducts.com/spec_sheets/treecatalog-jameson.pdf

I provided links to suppliers in the description of my video.