Stopped by DOT

[aczlan]

I am on the other side of the coin on Red Light cameras. Don't run the light or make a stop and there is no ticket involved. I spent some time as a fireman and cleaned up some pretty bad accidents from people running Red and Yellow lights. The impact that someone running a light to save some time is not worth it in my opinion. But that is my opinion. If they get some of my money for running a light or not stopping then it is my bad and I will own up to it.

But, is the decrease in red light runners worth the increase in rear end collisions from people who should have kept going but stopped faster than the car behind them?

Aaron Z

 

[Treemonkey1000]

But, is the decrease in red light runners worth the increase in rear end collisions from people who should have kept going but stopped faster than the car behind them?

Aaron Z

Oh gee Aaron then I would have to say what in the heck were they following that closely for?

 

[Robb71]

But, is the decrease in red light runners worth the increase in rear end collisions from people who should have kept going but stopped faster than the car behind them?

Aaron Z

I've read several studies that concluded an increase in accidents and fatal accidents after red light cameras were installed.

 

[Treemonkey1000]

I have read the reports that contradict each other on whether it increased or decreased the accidents at lights.. Who are we to believe? I guess short answer is slow down at the yellow and stop for the Red light.. This area is getting a lot of the Red light cameras. I would rather get rear ended at a light than someone blowing a light and driving through my door or my passengers door. You can't fix that kind of bodily damage or replace the person. Enough time spent at accidents with someone crying about their dying loved one or permanently handicapped. It shouldn't take a camera at an intersection to make people stop for the light.

Sorry I shouldn't get on a soap box this thread is about DOT.

 

[greasemonkeyok]

Vehicles going the same direction, closing speed is speed of V1 minus speed of V2. Closing speed of vehicles approaching from opposite direction is speed of V1 plus speed of V2. Closing speed of vehicles approaching at 90 degrees . . . . Speed kills. You get the picture.

I doubt that cameras contribute to as much carnage as busting red lights. Anecdotal, but own (limited) experience includes a number of fatalities from vehicles busting red lights. I know of no fatalities from being rear-ended when stopping suddenly for a yellow or red light.

 

[RobertN]

Last I heard, a red light meant stop? And the rear-ender was usually following too close.

But, is the decrease in red light runners worth the increase in rear end collisions from people who should have kept going but stopped faster than the car behind them?

Aaron Z

 

[Harold_J]

I'm all for following the law and driving safe but it's been found that some juristictions have shortened the yellow time on their lights after installing the cameras. And we all know why that would be!

 

[simonds]

I haul my 4200 JD on my 20' beavertail trailer. I had to get the DOT numbers to be legal because I use my tractor/backhoe to make money.
I wasn't sure about the two long chains or four short ones, so I use the four short ones going to four points. Rear chains angle towards the back and front chains angle toward the front. I don't have to climb up on the trailer to wrap chains around anything. So much easier to reach up hook one end to the tractor and the other end down through a stake pocket back up around and hook it. Then apply the binders. They also require you to secure any attachments that aren't part of your tractor. This one I am not sure about. My backhoe is detachable so I run a nylon ratchet strap over the hoe part. I haven't got into any of the truck stop inspections yet so I can't verify that I'm doing everything correct.
Clayton

 

[dawzie]

The DOT inspection I went threw was a learning curve. "07 tamdem axel septic tanker with a '06 interstate 40 ton lowboy with a case 580L hoe on it. All my paper work was in order :thumbsup: Front chains on backhoe start around the front axel and grap hooked to it self, then threw the D-ring on the trailer then to the loader lift arm and tightened with a rachet binder. The rear chains go from the hoe frame to the D-ring and tightened with R-binder. Another chain and binder on the hoe by the bucket and good to go. NOT They want front chains to hold main part of tractor and seperate chain to hold loader/bucket. I asked if they could show me how to do this. Got one of those looks, you know. Wrote me up for a unlighted plate on the trailer. I mounted the plate on the ramp not where the plate light was on the center rear of trailer.

He said when I come back from the job if they where still here to pull in. I took the 18 mile long way home:confused2:

 

[Soundguy]

revenue enforcement...especially since they didn't show you the correct way to do it. clearly unconcerned with safety if they let you leave 'in violation'...

pitiful....

time to take back OUR government people... votes count...

soundguy