Stuck Zerks

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IslandTractor

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What do you do when a grease zerk refuses to admit grease? Occasionally when greasing my tractor a zerk will not allow grease to pass into the joint and instead it either overflows back around the grease fitting or I can feel "solid" resistance to my efforts with a grease gun. I have generally used a nail punch to push in the little ball valve and sometimes that fixes the zerk. However today I had two zerks that steadfastly resisted my efforts to clean and get them working again. Is there any trick other than replacing the zerk?
 
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You can remove the Zerk, soak in K1 and try to get the ball moving...
But, Zerk fittings are cheap so I just replace them when they get goofy:D
 
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Read the post on metric zerks in parts/repairs. Soundguy told me how to fix them on my tractor to get them cleared out. I haven't tried it yet though since he just gave that advice yesterday.
 
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I have removed the offending zerks and soaked them in WD-40. That loosens up the gunk that is stuck to the spring and ball. After a few minutes of massaging, it seems to free up. A couple of additional blasts of WD and it's clean and working.
 
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My new LA723 loader had several stubborn grease fittings. I was determined to get grease into those pins. First I bought a new grease nozzle fitting that locked right onto the zerk fitting. This worked on most of the fittings. I still had two that resisted grease. I took the old fitting out and sprayed a penetrating oil ( something) "Blaster" that I got from NAPA into the hole and around the pin. Let it sit over night. Put in a new fitting. Greased the crap out of it. Now it works fine.

RPK
 
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Depends on why it is not taking the grease.

Many times you can cycle / move / actuate what the zerk is greasing and it will then allow it to take grease. For instance my deck lift hardware on the commercial mowers, If someone will actuate the deck up and down, it will accept grease readilly while it will appear "frozen" or clogged if just left stationary.

If you are doing it a lot, there is a tool that goes on the zerk, it is filled with light oil and you tap it with a hammer it injects the oil under pressure.

Many times, I pull the zerk, put it on the grease gun and insure grease passes through (give it a pump) then I dig the old crud out of the hole and then start washing it out with brake cleaner / penetrating oil, whatever is handy and compressed air at times, I usually try and activate the motion that the zerk is trying to lubricate at this time as well.

By this time, I have usually got it accepting grease, but if it still is not working, I will pull the pin or link or whatever (because it only gets worse later) and then clean everything and reassemble.

Obviously, be extremely careful when you activate things (or more so when you have someone else do it) and your hands are in and amongst things that you do not squish or remove something you are attached too.... say a finger or a hand. I have come close several times, but have so far been fortunate.
 
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You can spend a little time using the above methods, but sometimes you end up screwing around so much trying to fix a Zerk that it is just not worth it. You can get a whole set of them at Napa for about 10 bucks and it's so easy to replace them new. Just my 2¢ though.
 
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My experience has been that it's rarely the zerk that stops the flow of grease. it's usually galled grease covering the hole at the pin. Removing the zerk and running a small drill bit into the hole by spinning it between your fingers will sometimes fix the problem. most stubborn ones require taking the device apart that you are trying to grease.

More frequent greasing of that particular zerk will prevent problems in the future. Every fitting that you grease requires a different amount and frequency of maintenance. It takes almost two tubes of grease to lube my grader. Some zerks require lube every 8 hours of operation. Others only require lube every 50 hours. The zerks you are having repeat problems with need it more frequently than they are getting.

A lever style grease gun will exert tremendous pressure against the zerk. Way more than is necessary to free a stubborn spring and ball. Did you know on old Caterpillar dozers you adjust the tracks by pumping grease in a canister with a hand grease gun?? How much force would that require?? :)
 
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Yeah, definitely know that about the old CATS.. Hit a tall tree stump with one track and somehow blew a hole in one of those canisters. Grease everywhere.
 
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"Did you know on old Caterpillar dozers you adjust the tracks by pumping grease in a canister with a hand grease gun?? "

It's not just cats, my IH dozer had the grease adjusted track tensioner too. Sometimes you needed to loosen the tracks and to do that you removed a 3/4 inch plug from the grease cylinder. All that track tension sure blew the plug out of the hole with a healthy pile of grease to deal with. Not sure I've ever seen a different method of track tightener.

I dinged a brass zerc on my steering linkage and just nicked the head enough so that grease squirts out past the zerc aned not in through it. I bought the zerc kit from HF but they are all course threaded. The Kioti's are fine threaded and I am having a tough time finding a replacement. Is there a special fine threaded metric zerc?
 
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Highbeam said:
I bought the zerc kit from HF but they are all course threaded. The Kioti's are fine threaded and I am having a tough time finding a replacement. Is there a special fine threaded metric zerc?

I am glad to hear I should not buy zerks from just anywhere. I presume Kioti dealers must have access to fine threaded metric zerks. They cannot be that expensive and I assume we could buy just the right sizes not a selection. I'll check with my dealer tomorrow (if I remember).
 
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The one I buggered was the inboard pivot of the steering ram. They hang down low where a skid plate should be. I got the zerc off with a 10mm wrench and found a visually identical zerc at NAPA (SAE) but the bugger wouldn't thread in. Must be just a hair off. It pains me to not grease that joint.

Indeed, they seem to be somewhat non-typical though the zerks that you need on a different part may be standard since the loader is made by an aftermarket type supplier and not daedong themselves.
 
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I wonder if one of the TBN active Kioti dealers might have an answer for us? Seems they must stock whatever zerk sizes are needed for the tractors and common attachments.
 
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ovrszd said:
Did you know on old Caterpillar dozers you adjust the tracks by pumping grease in a canister with a hand grease gun?? How much force would that require?? :)

The cline adjustment is a pretty big cyl. We used to have a big 69 D6-9U and it had a grease cline adjustment. Took alot of grease.. but worked..

Soundguy
 
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Spoke to my dealer today who confirmed the Kioti zerks are metric and he is going to send me a few. He did not have the size off the top of his head so he'll include that in the package and I'll pass it on.
 
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I assume that is the tool Soundguy mentioned earlier. Thanks.
 
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FYI, the zerk fittings to lube the steering ram pivots of the CK30 are a special fine metric not available at NAPA or the JD dealer. They are available from a Kubota/Kioti place though. My joints are greasy again, delightful.
 

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