Subsoiler build ...

[blueriver]

I've been reading some about ground moisture and water run off and decided I needed to subsoil ... so yesterday afternoon and this morning using scrap's I build one ... Now please don't be to hard on me, I'm not a pro welder and its all scrap material....got done about noon and then tried it on about 5 acres.

I was amazed at how hard the ground is ... No funny wonder I have so much run off ... this is going to help retain the moisture and help the plant roots. I'm going in about as deep as it will go and I believe that around 18" and a couple times it made 55hp and 4x4 snort alittle.

 

[bullbreaker]

I'am being serious,I think that design is a dang good idea and it came out nice !
Looks like good results too ! :thumbsup:
Maybe you could tweak your design with some kind of shear protection or heavy duty spring load.
Way to go BLUE ! :thumbsup:


Boone

 

[kebo]

Not a thing in the world wrong with that!! I like it, but my only concern would be the same as Bullbreaker mentioned..... what's gonna happen when you come across that one immovable object???

 

[blueriver]

Thanks Guys ... I did give some thought to a break away/shear pin design ... thats a little advanced for this country boy!!

Good news is in my country you can dig forever without hitting a rock ... not saying some hidden foreign object may raise havic !!!

I quess in the event something does go wrong I will have to re-evaluate and deliberate (bull ... how ya like them big words for an okie !!! ) a break away / shear pin design.

 

[oldballs]

:thumbsup:I envy your skill and you may have something that would sell there. Maybe you could call it the "Triple Sub-Soiler". Notice how it covers your tracks.

 

[blueriver]

:thumbsup:I envy your skill and you may have something that would sell there. Maybe you could call it the "Triple Sub-Soiler". Notice how it covers your tracks.

When I layed it out I put one dead center and the other two centered on the rear tires...I'm am wanting to add coulters in front of the rippers... the coulters will cut the sod and hopefully not tear up so bad for hay field renovation.

So if anyone has used Plow coulters for sale let me know.

 

[bullbreaker]

Thanks Guys ... I did give some thought to a break away/shear pin design ... thats a little advanced for this country boy!!
I quess in the event something does go wrong I will have to re-evaluate and deliberate (bull ... how ya like them big words for an okie !!! ) a break away / shear pin design.

Blue heres a spring load "diagram" from Worksaver site that could give you something to sleep on.
http://www.worksaver.com/Manuals/fc-ws.pdf
Even though its on a cultivator same general principle.
Don't feel bad I only passed one more grade than "Jethro Bodine".

Boone

 

[bullbreaker]

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Boone

 

[blueriver]

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Boone

Really ... with welds like that I wouldn't put up a picture .... wait I DID !!!

 

[blueriver]

Blue heres a spring load "diagram" from Worksaver site that could give you something to sleep on.
http://www.worksaver.com/Manuals/fc-ws.pdf
Even though its on a cultivator same general principle.
Don't feel bad I only passed one more grade than "Jethro Bodine".

Boone

thanks for the link Bodine .... I wonder in this hard ground how many times they would trip ???

 

[Bigfoot62]

. . . I'm am wanting to add coulters in front of the rippers... the coulters will cut the sod and hopefully not tear up so bad for hay field renovation. . .

I admire your DIY attitude, but I just bought one. I let somebody else do the "figgerin'."
This is what I have: Hay King Renovators
Here it is on the back of the JD: John Deere 5085M pic2 - TractorByNet.com Photo Gallery
Note the coulters in front of each tooth, and the shear bolts on the shanks. You have the right idea.

 

[blueriver]

I admire your DIY attitude, but I just bought one. I let somebody else do the "figgerin'."
This is what I have: Hay King Renovators
Here it is on the back of the JD: John Deere 5085M pic2 - TractorByNet.com Photo Gallery

I love those hay kings !!! I've never used one but looking at them they must do the job. I want those coulters.

 

[sixdogs]

That is a fine looking build--and it certainly does the job. Around here we only need to go 12"-14" to shatter the hardpan and improve drainage. The fear is too much depth in the wrong ground can "invert" the topsoil and that should be avoided. Good job, good results and happy it worked for you.

 

[yelbike]

Wow nice build!!:licking: I wonder if the shanks had more forward angle if the HP requirement might be reduced to make it easier on the tractor. Also if the shanks were drill and bolted on instead, it could give you some adjustment for angle and the bolts could serve as "shear" pins. Just an idea.
Either way I like the build.

 

[blueriver]

Wow nice build!!:licking: I wonder if the shanks had more forward angle if the HP requirement might be reduced to make it easier on the tractor. Also if the shanks were drill and bolted on instead, it could give you some adjustment for angle and the bolts could serve as "shear" pins. Just an idea.
Either way I like the build.

I slept on it and am thinking the same ... my next move along with the coulters is to cut the shank ... not sure where yet. At that cut I can angle the lower part of the rippers and use grade 5 bolts.... just bolt the cutoff part to the side .... Gotta study what angle to put them.

I didn't know coulters where going to be so hard to find ... I thought surely there would be some used ones around.

 

[jenkinsph]

I think that is a nice build.:thumbsup:

About the shank might want to consider a parabolic design. Very popular for large V ripper plows.

 

[bullbreaker]

I slept on it and am thinking the same ... my next move along with the coulters is to cut the shank ... not sure where yet. At that cut I can angle the lower part of the rippers and use grade 5 bolts.... just bolt the cutoff part to the side .... Gotta study what angle to put them.
I didn't know coulters where going to be so hard to find ... I thought surely there would be some used ones around.

BLUE I've bought coulters in the past(new)(complete assymbl.) from : DN Equipment

Boone

 

[oldnslo]

For Coulters, do you have any implement salvage/grave yards or used implement dealers in your area? Here in the corn belt we have several and if you willing to dig through their scrap piles you can some times find coulters etc..

Just a thought and nice build from scrap. Usually when I am done the scrap looks like a bigger pile of scrap....

Roy

 

[blueriver]

BLUE I've bought coulters in the past(new)(complete assymbl.) from : DN Equipment

Boone

Thanks Boone ... maybe I can get an "escort service" to deliver them.

 

[blueriver]

For Coulters, do you have any implement salvage/grave yards or used implement dealers in your area? Here in the corn belt we have several and if you willing to dig through their scrap piles you can some times find coulters etc..

Just a thought and nice build from scrap. Usually when I am done the scrap looks like a bigger pile of scrap....

Roy

No such thing around me. The corn belt ... man the few times I've driven thru your country its like a couple equipment dealers in every town.

Once in Walnut Grove Mn ... I spent hours walking thru the used equipment.