survey stakes and neighbors

[hunterridgefarm]

I had a neighbor who would always pull the corner stake up when surveyed.

The last time he had it surveyed I found out about it and was standing at the corner when the surveyor got there with a car axle, drove it in the ground, he could not pull it up .

To mark the line we took a 5" flat disc and welded it to rebar. Every place the surveyor would mark the boundary we would drive one in. It stays flush with the ground, easy to find, don't have to worry about hitting it with the mower, and you can paint the disc to make finding even easier.

 

[Ifixcars]

Thanks Hunt, I was thinking of something like that. I better get busy on it before the stakes get "accidently" run over.

 

[Highbeam]

I had my lot surveyed a couple of years ago. I had the surveyor set official permanent corners with rebar and caps. In addition, I had him "mark" points every 1-2 hundred feet along the line so that I could establish line through forest and rolling topography. For the line stakes he used tall wood lathe with ribbon to mark the 1.5" square wooden hubs set flush with the ground and a tack placed exactly on the top of the hub on the line. This is good for the short term but for the long term I bought precut 1/2" diameter by 2 foot long rebar chunks at home depot and drove them in beside the hubs as close to online as possible. I drove them flush. A metal detector will always be able to find those bars even if a forest fire roars through.

The rebar is cheap and effective.

 

[Jstpssng]

If you're worried about it moving I'd consider driving another piece of rebar about 18" below the visible pin; preferably after marking it with a unique ID (Your deed book and page#?)

If you really want something easy to find, attach a magnet into your buried pin. We used to drop one into the drill hole on a granite monument, it'll drive a metal detector crazy..

 

[Ifixcars]

I made a couple test pins tonight. I picked up a handfull of 5x5x3/16 inch squares (drops from the local metal shop), cut them into circles and welded a foot of 3/4 inch round bar to them. The round bars were drops too, and were 2 foot lengths. I cut them to 1 foot to make more of them. I hope 1 foot will be long enough. Should I go 18 inch? I drove a couple down into the ground next to the stakes to see how they looked. They seem like they will stay put, as long as no one pulls them up. Maybe I should sink some rebar underground too.

 

[MossRoad]

Take a post hole digger, dig a hole two feet deep, dump in a bag of concrete, pour a bucket of water in it and push your pin thing that you are making into it. It won't go anywhere without someone doing some hard work and can't be removed "by accident".

 

[Timber]

In most places you can not place a fence right on the property line. Also, the wooden stakes are probably guard stakes. No surveyor I know, or worked for, would use wooden stakes sticking up out of the ground to mark the line.

I have never herd of such a thing, You can put a fence right in the line. In fact I had a big problem with my neighbor at my last property. He complained to the town stating it was on his property. With an instrument survey you put the fence right on the line, the down side is your neighbor owns that side of the fence. Now he can't vandalize it or remove it but he can paint it any color he wants. If you bring it in 1 foot then you own both sides and they can't touch it. Also if your neighbor disputes were you set the fence it is his responsibility to contract and pay for the instrument survey to prove his allegation. I just went through all this 2 years ago.

 

[Fug1000]

Sounds like your neighbor needs a visit from Bubba!

By the way, this is Bubba's Tractor....I want one!

 

[MikePA]

I have never herd of such a thing,

Because you've never heard of it doesn't make it so. I've not only heard of such a thing, many townships and municipalities do not allow it.

You can put a fence right in the line.

In your area you can.

In fact I had a big problem with my neighbor at my last property. He complained to the town stating it was on his property. With an instrument survey you put the fence right on the line, the down side is your neighbor owns that side of the fence. Now he can't vandalize it or remove it but he can paint it any color he wants. If you bring it in 1 foot then you own both sides and they can't touch it. Also if your neighbor disputes were you set the fence it is his responsibility to contract and pay for the instrument survey to prove his allegation. I just went through all this 2 years ago.

This is exactly why municipalities do not allow fences directly on property lines, property line disputes. It's my fence, on my property. I'm not looking for a fight with a neighbor.

 

[MossRoad]

Yeah. You can't put your fence right ON the line, but you can put it so that the fence surface is butted up TO the line.

Of course, if both parties agree to the fence, then you can put it on the line.