survey stakes and neighbors

[Timber]

LOL there is nothing to dispute on an instrument survey. The line is were the line is. My neighbor and I had a long history. He poisoned my German Shepard and killed her before she was even 7 years old right in her prime. One of the reasons I bought my farm No Neighbors. At any rate Fencing is not considered permanent construction so they can go right on the line

 

[MikePA]

LOL there is nothing to dispute on an instrument survey.

LOL, this is flat out wrong.

When you do a property survey, you pull deeds from both the property you're surveying, plus the deeds of all adjoining properties. Disputes arise when the deeds containing the description of the same property line do not match.

Accurately placing the markers on the ground is simple. Determining which deed is accurate sometimes is not. That's how disputes arise with 'an instrument survey'.

 

[HomeBrew2]

Agree w/ MikePA and to keep it short, only Judges "set" boundaries, surveyors are charged with delineating a boundary on the ground to the best of their ability. Any survey could be subject to dispute by other, equally competant, surveyors and could ultimately have to be resolved by a judge.

 

[mjarrels]

Just my .02... but look at the copy of your survey... I bet you will see IP on it... look down in the corner and I bet you will see IP = iron pin set. All surveys I have ever seen done have rebar iron pins set... wood stake means nothing.

mark

 

[MossRoad]

wood stake means nothing.

Try telling that to a vampire!

 

[zeuspaul]

Agreed that judges determine boundaries and surveyors provide their expert opinion as to where the boundary is.

However a Surveyor may*set* a boundary if the survey is called out in a deed....such as Mr Jones sells a portion of his land as defined by the survey by Mr XYZ.

Zeuspaul

 

[riptides]

Agreed that judges determine boundaries and surveyors provide their expert opinion as to where the boundary is.

However a Surveyor may*set* a boundary if the survey is called out in a deed....such as Mr Jones sells a portion of his land as defined by the survey by Mr XYZ.

Zeuspaul

Hopefully the surveryer is looking at all the deeds associated with the property. Quite a lot of information, shall we say is lost in time.....

-Mike Z.

 

[mwechtal]

Hopefully the surveryer is looking at all the deeds associated with the property. Quite a lot of information, shall we say is lost in time.....

-Mike Z.

Or, it may just be in error. My MIL lives on a short street in a chopped up part of town. The house is at least 100 years old. There are only 6 lots on each side I believe. At any rate, if you add up the frontage of all the lots, you come up with a figure longer than the street. So, the surveyer measured the street, and divided it equally, since all the deeds on the street specify the same frontage for each lot. I guess he would have had to do it proportionally if the lots were not equal in width.

Mike

 

[Jstpssng]

Or, it may just be in error. My MIL lives on a short street in a chopped up part of town. The house is at least 100 years old. There are only 6 lots on each side I believe. At any rate, if you add up the frontage of all the lots, you come up with a figure longer than the street. So, the surveyer measured the street, and divided it equally, since all the deeds on the street specify the same frontage for each lot. I guess he would have had to do it proportionally if the lots were not equal in width.

Mike

There are all sorts of variables. Land is more valuable today, and survey instruments are more accurate. Surveyors are held to a higher standard than in the past... I'm not a surveyor, but I've done research where 100 acre parcels were carved up into 3, smaller 50 acre pieces. Most deeds include the phrase "More or less", which can include as much as 10% discrepancy.

 

[KentT]

Most deeds include the phrase "More or less", which can include as much as 10% discrepancy.

The tract I bought a couple years ago read 5.26 acres, more or less, and that's what I'm paying taxes on. When I had it surveyed, it came in at 4.25 acres (almost 20% less), and 3/4 of an acre of it is now under water where they rebuilt the dam on the pond (that they call a lake) and the water line rose that much...

Then, my neighbor tried to say that about 1.5 acre of my tract was actually his, and that he had a survey to prove it.... come to find out he'd had it surveyed three times, trying to get his tract to equal the 5 acre size on his deed -- and the third time the surveyor he used simply set a pin far enough down my property line to give him a full five acres -- even if amost 1.5 acre of it was mine...

He badgered me, trying to get me to sell my tract to him, and saying he was going to take me to court, until my surveyor finally sent him a letter telling him that the corner pin on my survey was the same corner pin on his first two surveys -- and on the plats at the courthouse that matched the deed and are the basis of taxes, and he finally backed off...

MY TAKEAWAY FROM ALL THAT: There's good surveyors and some that are not so good, there's good surveys and some that are not so good, and no two of them necessarily will agree...