Tailwheel vs impact gun

   / Tailwheel vs impact gun #31  
Something that a lot of guys don't know about air tool ratings is the fact that the 90psi should be measured at the tool INLET. To check correctly, tee a gauge into the airline at the tool inlet then pull the trigger on the tool. It will amaze you how the 120-150 psi @ the tank falls far short of being 90 psi at the tool inlet with the tool running.

I've used Mac AW234 & AW434 impact wrenches all my adult life. I had to run my compressor @ 195 tank psi and use a 1/2 air hose to get the full 90 psi at the inlet. But I could break loose bolts that other guys couldn't dream of breaking.

You're right, of course, and I guess you know that those MAC tools are made by Ingersoll-Rand; just have the MAC name on them. So they are very good tools.
 
   / Tailwheel vs impact gun #32  
You're right, of course, and I guess you know that those MAC tools are made by Ingersoll-Rand; just have the MAC name on them. So they are very good tools.

Yes Sir, Bird.
And since they were made by IR I could get parts for them locally at NAPA and not have to wait for the Mac Man to come by.
Of course that was back in the "good old days" when "parts" were still used. Too many people and manufacturers have gone to the "disposable" view on things now and I can no longer get "parts" for air tools through my local NAPA.
 
   / Tailwheel vs impact gun #33  
Something that a lot of guys don't know about air tool ratings is the fact that the 90psi should be measured at the tool INLET. To check correctly, tee a gauge into the airline at the tool inlet then pull the trigger on the tool. It will amaze you how the 120-150 psi @ the tank falls far short of being 90 psi at the tool inlet with the tool running.

I've used Mac AW234 & AW434 impact wrenches all my adult life. I had to run my compressor @ 195 tank psi and use a 1/2 air hose to get the full 90 psi at the inlet. But I could break loose bolts that other guys couldn't dream of breaking.

hose and inlet nip size play a big role in that.

that's why 1/2" air line for a good tool..and even 3/4" for a big one is so needed. and a good nip size on the supply and gun end.. no bottle necks to go thru
 
   / Tailwheel vs impact gun #34  
Yes Sir, Bird.
And since they were made by IR I could get parts for them locally at NAPA and not have to wait for the Mac Man to come by.
Of course that was back in the "good old days" when "parts" were still used. Too many people and manufacturers have gone to the "disposable" view on things now and I can no longer get "parts" for air tools through my local NAPA.


i don't like those new poly framed guns.. :(
 
   / Tailwheel vs impact gun
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#35  
Wow, thanks for all thee feedback. Didnt think this thread would get that many views. I have thought about a heavier duty model if i cant get this one back up and running. Whats the next size up that is practical/ affordable for a weekend warrior type? I hate not having the right tool or a big enough tool for the job when needed.
 
   / Tailwheel vs impact gun #36  
Wow, thanks for all thee feedback. Didnt think this thread would get that many views. I have thought about a heavier duty model if i cant get this one back up and running. Whats the next size up that is practical/ affordable for a weekend warrior type? I hate not having the right tool or a big enough tool for the job when needed.

it depends on lots of factors.

if you have a large compressor, and do medium to large work.. chip for about 70$ and get a 3/4 gun from HF. if you get the large aluminum body one..it's heavier.. but more torque thanthe slifghtly cheaper / lighter model.

if you do heavy work.. chip about 100$ and get the 1" gun.

I have both.. use them infrequently. when I do use them.. they are nice to have.

here's that 3/4" gun i have. used it recently to set a crankshaft pully on my farmall C.

http://www.tractorshed.com/gallery/uptest/a52871.jpg
 
   / Tailwheel vs impact gun #37  
I'd go with one of them IR guns mentioned earlier. They should last you along time and have good power. You will need a decent size compressor.
 
   / Tailwheel vs impact gun #38  
it depends on lots of factors.

if you have a large compressor, and do medium to large work.. chip for about 70$ and get a 3/4 gun from HF. if you get the large aluminum body one..it's heavier.. but more torque thanthe slifghtly cheaper / lighter model.

if you do heavy work.. chip about 100$ and get the 1" gun.

I have both.. use them infrequently. when I do use them.. they are nice to have.

here's that 3/4" gun i have. used it recently to set a crankshaft pully on my farmall C.

http://www.tractorshed.com/gallery/uptest/a52871.jpg


Just don't forget that it won't be a lot more powerful unless you also get bigger hoses and fittings to allow more air through, and of course that you have enough compressor to do the job.
 
   / Tailwheel vs impact gun #39  
yep.. in post 33 i mentioned the hoses and nips.. and the larger comp in that post iself.

all playes a role.
 
   / Tailwheel vs impact gun #40  
i don't like those new poly framed guns.. :(

Can I assume you're talking about the Ingersoll-Rand composite body with aluminum alloy cylinder for the air motor? They're fine tools, but like all man-made tools, there can be some problems. Some of the things I encountered in working on them: (1) there's a relatively small, flat piece of the composite that separates the forward and reverse buttons. It sometimes comes out. Now IF the owner saved it, I could superglue it back in, but if not, well . . . a new housing assembly (handle) ain't cheap, (2) that tilt valve can go bad and while it's not expensive, the manual shows a special tool to remove the inlet assembly if you have to replace the tilt valve. You'll probably never succeed with that tool, although there's a trick to removing that assembly that's quite easy:laughing:, (3) the forward/reverse buttons sometime pop out. If they aren't lost, it's easy to put them back in; otherwise you get to buy new ones, (4) if dirt and debris score a steel cylinder in an air motor, you can use a cylinder hone to clean it up. That doesn't work very well with an aluminum alloy cylinder, and (5) I even got a couple on which the owner had installed a tune-up kit and then it didn't work because he failed to properly lubricate it.

But the only one I saw that wasn't worth fixing was one which was under the car lift when the mechanic lowered the lift and crushed it.:laughing:
 

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