TC30 Won't Start
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tcreeley
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Guess I spoke to soon. Still having the no start issue even with the new battery. Turn the key and nothing happens. It's only doing this in the extreme cold. It's 3 right now and it won't crank. Only thing I can think of is the starter is freezing up. Any other ideas?
dave1949
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Maybe condensation inside a relay is freezing up?
dave1949
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This is from post #6 by jinman (Jim Inman, a really good guy who passed away last year) in the Sticky thread at the top of New Holland Owning & Operating "TC33D Won't Start"
I don't think you can do that. The connection to the starter motor is internal since the solenoid switch is on the starter. To check the motor for operation, you need to connect a jumper between the large cable coming from the battery and the small connector. This will provide voltage to the solenoid and make it engergize the starter motor. If this does not work, then you probably have a starter problem. If it does work, then you can continue to look for a relay or switch problem.
Looking through that Sticky thread will give you a lot of help in what to look for with starting problems.
I don't think you can do that. The connection to the starter motor is internal since the solenoid switch is on the starter. To check the motor for operation, you need to connect a jumper between the large cable coming from the battery and the small connector. This will provide voltage to the solenoid and make it engergize the starter motor. If this does not work, then you probably have a starter problem. If it does work, then you can continue to look for a relay or switch problem.
Looking through that Sticky thread will give you a lot of help in what to look for with starting problems.
I'm not sure if it's a cable like that post or what. Could be. I just hooked up the volt meter and it's only reading 12v on the batter and at the starter with the ignition off. If I turn the key it drops down to 5v. Both at the batter and the starter. I put it on the charger and the battery is reading 70%. It amost seems like the battery is being drained or overtaxed. I can't get a vehicle to it to try a jump.
dave1949
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Could be something draining the battery. Or, since the battery was new yesterday maybe it was never fully charged if you didn't run the tractor very long? A lead acid battery loses around 50% of it's power going from 72 degrees down to zero.
Take the battery inside and warm it up to room temp. If you get the tractor started later, after shutting it off for the day, disconnect the positive cable until you want to start it again. If it's a battery draining thing, you will prevent that. If your charging system is working, you should see around 14.5 volts across the battery terminals with the engine running.
Take the battery inside and warm it up to room temp. If you get the tractor started later, after shutting it off for the day, disconnect the positive cable until you want to start it again. If it's a battery draining thing, you will prevent that. If your charging system is working, you should see around 14.5 volts across the battery terminals with the engine running.
Taking it in and warming it up worked. Also put it on the charger. Fired up like a champ. I just assumed having a new battery would solve the issue but I guess they probably don't come fully charged and I didn't run the tractor long enough. Plus it was around zero last night. I checked the voltage while it was running and it's a strong 14.0. The meeter only goes to 14.0 so it could be higher. I ran it for and hour with the snow blower to get rid of the drifts in the driveways so hopefully that charged it up. I'll try it again tomorrow morning. Ah cold weather! :confused2:
super55
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My oliver Super 55 battery was having the same problem this winter. Lights would work fine try to crank it over you hear the loud "click of the solenoid" but wouldn't start. I went as far as to completely disassemble the starter clean the brushes and winding because I was certain it was the starter had a dead spot in it.
Ended up being just when the engine was cold and the battery drained just slightly it didn't have enough to spin the flywheel.
After the tractor was warmed up it would start easily. Personally I won't even buy a battery unless it has 750 CCA and usually try to get one that has 875. They cost a little more but nothing ticks me off more than going out and having a dead battery.
Ended up being just when the engine was cold and the battery drained just slightly it didn't have enough to spin the flywheel.
After the tractor was warmed up it would start easily. Personally I won't even buy a battery unless it has 750 CCA and usually try to get one that has 875. They cost a little more but nothing ticks me off more than going out and having a dead battery.
