TC33D won't start.

[JGM]

I can't start my tc33d. Turn the ignition switch to on and the PTO light up. I did some checking and noticed the Hydraulic fluid was low.

A mechanic told me that if the oil gets too low, the tractor won't start. First Question, when measuring the oil, do you insert the dip stick all the way down or do you measure leaving the bottom of the dipstick's rubber seal out when measuing. Sometimes you see instructions stating not to screw the dipstick back in place when taking a measurement.

Also, are there any wiring issues that might cause this problem?

OR..... is there another problem.

oh yea, a couple days I was having a hard time moving the loader shifter over to dump a load. My son was on it later in the day and said he heard a pop and the loader started operating fine. I am unsure if the two incidents are related, but thought it might be... thoughts?

thanks, joe

 

[HowlingWolf]

Hey Joe

I used to keep some 15 amp fuses on the tractor after getting stranded. The 10 amp starter fuse used to blow a lot. Also check your battery mine leaked after just 50 hours.

 

[thclimer]

Hi Joe,

I'm not aware that if the level of hydraulic oil was low it would not allow the tractor to start, but I can tell you there are a host of electrical issues that will. Probably the best post to read is the following one:

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/new-holland-owning-operating/124642-tc33d-wont-start.html

After replacing my fuse with the circuit breaker style fuse and a more robust ignition switch, the final fix for me was to install the relay.

There is a wealth of information here, good luck at getting her running again.

I doubt the loader issue has anything to due with the tractor not starting.

 

[SteveInMD]

Look here...

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/new-holland-owning-operating/124642-tc33d-wont-start-2.html

 

[JGM]

so after reading the previous thread(s), are you saying switch out the battery cables?

 

[JGM]

one point i faild to mention earlier. On Saturday, i was mowing with it and noticed i had to get fuel. So I disengaged the pto, drove it to the gas station. I was about to turn it off but noticed the PTO light was still lit even though both PTO levers were off. I jiggled around with it and turned off the engine.

I fueled up, tried to start it and nothing happened.

just thought i would throw that in as my problem doesn't exactly mimic the problems with the sticky TC33D thread.

thanks joe

 

[DavidA]

Mine seems to want to eat a 10 V fuse every year (next to the top fuse). I keep a supply in the toolbox and am started up and running with just a few minutes of effort.

 

[thclimer]

When you turn the ignition key does the tractor turn over, but just not start?

Jinman is an expert at this stuff, but I think if your PTO light is on and you turn the key and it turns over but will not start you might have fuse #2 blown.

Have you checked all your fuses?

With the PTO light on I believe the tractor will not start, even turn over because of a safety interlock, so if your fuses are not blown and the tractor thinks the PTO is engaged I don't think it will start. Your PTO lever or switch might be out of adjustment.

 

[jinman]

I can't start my tc33d. Turn the ignition switch to on and the PTO light up. I did some checking and noticed the Hydraulic fluid was low.

Joe, forget the hydraulic fluid level having anything to do with starting. It does not.

If you turn on your key and the PTO light comes on (with the PTO lever to OFF), it is one of two things. You have a fuse blown or the PTO switch is out of adjustment. I would look for a blown fuse first. If that doesn't work then jiggle the PTO lever to see if you can get the starter to work. I'm not exactly sure where the PTO switch is or how to adjust it on the TC33, but it sounds like it is out of adjustment based on your saying it caused you problems at the gas station. One thing is for sure. If the tractor thinks the PTO is ON, it will not start. That's how it is supposed to operate.

 

[MikePA]

Mine seems to want to eat a 10 V fuse every year (next to the top fuse). I keep a supply in the toolbox and am started up and running with just a few minutes of effort.

Time to switch to a circuit breaker?

 

[jinman]

Time to switch to a circuit breaker?

Absolutely!

 

[JGM]

Thank you for the replies.

All the fuses are good. The engine does not turn over. I called my NH dealer and he seems to think it is in PTO switches.

I will investigate that tomorrow.

joe

 

[JGM]

Good News, It was a loose wire.

 

[thclimer]

Good News, It was a loose wire.

Glad to hear you have her running again.

Was it a loose wire on the PTO switch?

 

[JGM]

Glad to hear you have her running again.

Was it a loose wire on the PTO switch?

yes it was

 

[Barney Fife]

My new T2220 did this last week after bush hogging. Two wires underneath the tractor pulled apart at the connection. Easy fix but dumb place to leave two wires hanging underneath the tractor. :confused3:

 

[rhildebr8]

Ok, I want you all to know that your response is what helped me fix the same issue I had with mine. Brush must have pulled the PTO wire loose underneeth. I agree that's a bad place to put wiring. I can't tell you how trilled I am to get it working. Now I can continue my 2 wks of vacation moving dirt which beats going into the office any day of the week. Funny thing, my kids call the tractor's PTO "Paid Time Off". Thanks for all your help.

 

[jedjoe]

I believe my PTO switches and hardware on my TC35 are indentical to what you have on your TC33. That PTO switch is always something to pay attention to. For instance, I had that same problem years ago when I first bought my machine (back in '04). Was running it during a snowstorm, trying to get lumber in the barn before it got buried! Stopped the tractor at one point, and then went back to it 5 minutes later....The darn thing wouldn't start!! Tried what I thought was everything, and then had to abandon "blue" in the snow...

I had just become a TBN member then, so I went home and described the problem on this very forum. TA DA! Someone suggested, and I think it was Jinman (was it, Jinman, maybe you remember....), that I might have moved the PTO switch by accident. Went back to the machine, and sure enough, I had accidentally hooked the level and just moved it about 3/4" out of "true off". That was enough to pull the lever stop off the safety switch, and convince the tractor that the PTO was "on".

Moral of the story....pay attention to that darn switch (and in your case, the wire,too)!!