dqdave1
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I noticed you have said " fuses look good". Make sure you test them for continuity to make sure they are good. I had one "look" good only to be broken from vibration I assume. Make sure of continuity on all switches also.
TC34DA Won't Start... Any ideas?
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BarnStangz
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dqdave1 said:
Good idea, thanks. I'll be busting out the fluke tomorrow to see what I find... Thanks again!
Max
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BarnStangz
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6sunset6 said:
...OH Man...
I re-checked EVERYTHING! checked fuses, with test light, fluke. Checked all wires from safety switches and things seem fine. Having said that, I still think the trans. switch is messed up. Talked to my dealer and they are going to pick it up tomorrow at 10am. They said that they will have it back to me before the weekend so that I can get some work done. They think it's a switch too, but who really knows... So, I'll have a word by tomrrow afternoon or wednesday the latest. Thanks again!
Max
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cSTATUS UPDATE:
Well, my service guy picked her up Tuesday and then they called on Wednesday saying that they found a loose / broken wire in the harness. They are still going over the wiring system I guess and will either just fix the break on put in a new wire harness...
Don't know how a wire could have broken... I'm pretty sure I killed all the rats in my barn, but I guess you never know. They are going to keep trouble shooting and give me a call today. I told them that I would really like the tractor back this weekend if at all possible, but want the job done right, so if it takes till next week, I could wait, no big deal.
It was interesting that it wasn't a switch that was bad, per se, but a wire leading to a switch. Maybe some brush caught it and broke a wire loose. When I was under the tractor, I didn't see any broken wires, maybe it got stretched or something, what do you guys think? I'll keep you guy痴 updates!
Max
Well, my service guy picked her up Tuesday and then they called on Wednesday saying that they found a loose / broken wire in the harness. They are still going over the wiring system I guess and will either just fix the break on put in a new wire harness...
Don't know how a wire could have broken... I'm pretty sure I killed all the rats in my barn, but I guess you never know. They are going to keep trouble shooting and give me a call today. I told them that I would really like the tractor back this weekend if at all possible, but want the job done right, so if it takes till next week, I could wait, no big deal.
It was interesting that it wasn't a switch that was bad, per se, but a wire leading to a switch. Maybe some brush caught it and broke a wire loose. When I was under the tractor, I didn't see any broken wires, maybe it got stretched or something, what do you guys think? I'll keep you guy痴 updates!
Max
thclimer
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Max,
I've been curious to hear what your final fix was. Wow a broken wire, that's a killer. That sure raises troubleshooting to the next level. It does seem hard to imagine how the copper strands inside a wire break and not have the insulation broken as well. I guess anything is possible, I hope that's the fix for you. Since I've put all my cowlings back on my glow plugs have been working fine. I still have the ignition switch to replace but just haven't found the time.
Tim
I've been curious to hear what your final fix was. Wow a broken wire, that's a killer. That sure raises troubleshooting to the next level. It does seem hard to imagine how the copper strands inside a wire break and not have the insulation broken as well. I guess anything is possible, I hope that's the fix for you. Since I've put all my cowlings back on my glow plugs have been working fine. I still have the ignition switch to replace but just haven't found the time.
Tim
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BarnStangz
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thclimer said:
Yeah, I hear ya... I'm sure they'll be able to tell me 100% what the deal is sometime today. But I agree with you, I find it had to believe that a wire on the inside got snapped. I do a lot of computer network installations, and CAT5 cable is very fragile... I've never snapped one of them... Oh well... anything can happen. I'm just glad that they figured out what the deal was. I guess it was really intermittent, so that they had to have a few guys pull here and there to make the contact again with the broken wire... We'll see what they say, I'll keep you posted.
Tim, I'm glad that your tractor is working well for you now. There is nothing more frustrating then trouble shooting electrical issues!
Max
dynasim
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The sharing of information about this sort of thing is amazing. When I have this problem, I will be sure to check continuity through the whole sysem, and not just the relays and fuses(not if, but when).
There was another guy on this forum who diagnosed a whining/chattering sound in his HST. The problem was incident related(he knew what incident started it), but looked high and low for the cause.
After a lot of work, he found the problem(which was an un-round tube in a clamped fitting which allowed a small amount of air to be pulled into the suction of the pump). He was able to find an air leak INTO the system, which left no external clues, by narrowing of choices.
The interesting thing is that there have been at least two other threads with problems with the same sort of cause(air ingress into the HST), where the dealer didn't know jack. Upon hearing their stories, the problem was apparent, and could have been directly addressed if the dealer/mechanic would have read this forum.
Anyway, thanks a million for sharing the problem and the solution, and not getting mad at the tractor, or the company.
Chris
There was another guy on this forum who diagnosed a whining/chattering sound in his HST. The problem was incident related(he knew what incident started it), but looked high and low for the cause.
After a lot of work, he found the problem(which was an un-round tube in a clamped fitting which allowed a small amount of air to be pulled into the suction of the pump). He was able to find an air leak INTO the system, which left no external clues, by narrowing of choices.
The interesting thing is that there have been at least two other threads with problems with the same sort of cause(air ingress into the HST), where the dealer didn't know jack. Upon hearing their stories, the problem was apparent, and could have been directly addressed if the dealer/mechanic would have read this forum.
Anyway, thanks a million for sharing the problem and the solution, and not getting mad at the tractor, or the company.
Chris
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maxfior said:
In most instances of "broken wires" I have seen, it ends up being a pin pulled out of a plug or an overcrimped connection, maybe corrosion also in a relay plug connection. If you get a rodent attack, all bets are off.
I hope they give you a good definitive answer, Max.
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BarnStangz
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Chris and Jim,
I hear what you are saying... It's always a good thing to be level headed and just keep moving forward, no matter how hard. There will always be a solution...
Got the tractor back on Friday. Turns out, the wires leading to the trans. safety switch got pinched and the one wire broke. The interesting thing is, when my dealer told me this, he asked if I was working around something that could have jumped up and grabbed the wire... Funny thing is, I WAS moving some manure around and I did notice little chunks of 2x4痴 in there, they were pretty small so I would just roll over them not thinking about it. I bet what happened was that one kicked up and knocked the wire a little. Then the next day, I was tilling some hard pack (clay) and all the bouncing and jarring was enough to make the wire break I bet. Then, the following day, tractor would not start and that's when I started all the trouble shooting and posting this thread.
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Dealer butt spliced a new wire in and didn't charge me for pick up or delivery. They said that there won't be any issues with the splice, but I should be careful when working around brush, wood, sticks, etc. I think I might fabricate something to protect the wires better since I don't want something like this happening again... My dealer was stellar and was really prompt, so I give them props for that. We got to talking and since I own a computer company he asked about an external DVD burner, so I'm going to get them a nice one and drop it off to them. I figure they were good enough to help me out quickly and it's worth making them happy too... Never know what might happen down the road...
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So, long story short, it was a simple dang wire... I had a feeling it was something small since these tractors are claw hammer reliable... So, for anyone that might have an issue like me, make sure you check your switches and all the wire(s) leading up to them as it could be a simple snag or break! THANK YOU EVERYONE that has helped me with this. It's great to have a community with this much support!
Max
I hear what you are saying... It's always a good thing to be level headed and just keep moving forward, no matter how hard. There will always be a solution...
Got the tractor back on Friday. Turns out, the wires leading to the trans. safety switch got pinched and the one wire broke. The interesting thing is, when my dealer told me this, he asked if I was working around something that could have jumped up and grabbed the wire... Funny thing is, I WAS moving some manure around and I did notice little chunks of 2x4痴 in there, they were pretty small so I would just roll over them not thinking about it. I bet what happened was that one kicked up and knocked the wire a little. Then the next day, I was tilling some hard pack (clay) and all the bouncing and jarring was enough to make the wire break I bet. Then, the following day, tractor would not start and that's when I started all the trouble shooting and posting this thread.
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Dealer butt spliced a new wire in and didn't charge me for pick up or delivery. They said that there won't be any issues with the splice, but I should be careful when working around brush, wood, sticks, etc. I think I might fabricate something to protect the wires better since I don't want something like this happening again... My dealer was stellar and was really prompt, so I give them props for that. We got to talking and since I own a computer company he asked about an external DVD burner, so I'm going to get them a nice one and drop it off to them. I figure they were good enough to help me out quickly and it's worth making them happy too... Never know what might happen down the road...
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So, long story short, it was a simple dang wire... I had a feeling it was something small since these tractors are claw hammer reliable... So, for anyone that might have an issue like me, make sure you check your switches and all the wire(s) leading up to them as it could be a simple snag or break! THANK YOU EVERYONE that has helped me with this. It's great to have a community with this much support!
Max
