Texas Heat!

[tungularafishcamp]

Seems when it comes to thieves Texas and Ca are as different as night and day...

:laughing:From the little bit of time I have spent both places I think the differences run a little bit further than just thievery.

 

[blueriver]

I dont understand why it is different for daylight vs dark, can anyone enlighten me on the reasoning?

I would think in the dark the persons intent would be considered different ...
Like lets wait until dark to go rob them ????

 

[Bird]

I dont understand why it is different for daylight vs dark, can anyone enlighten me on the reasoning?

Rick, isn't everyone afraid of the dark?:laughing: I've not seen the legislative notes as to their reasoning, but similar wording existed in the old Penal Code before the turn of the century. A complete new Penal Code went into effect in January, 1974, and of course has been amended many times since. But I think the difference is that, in the dark, you cannot see as well to determine the offenders age, whether or not the offender is armed, exactly what the offender is doing, etc. So, you're allowed greater leeway in deciding whether to shoot.

 

[Bird]

So I always leave my doors locked during the day, to keep out the riff raff if any try to just stop in for some cool air.

Brandi, I grew up in southern Oklahoma; lived in Ardmore, Healdton, Marlow, & Marietta before moving to Plano, TX. We never had a door key, never locked a door, and never took the key out of the ignition in the car. I was 19 when I bought a little "house trailer" in Dallas and that was the first time I had a key to the door.

But then my parents moved to Anchorage in the Fall of 1965 and bought a little house there. And then one cold evening, a drunken Eskimo just walked in and sat down on the sofa in the living room without saying a word. Just came in to warm up apparently. And that was when they starting locking a door.:laughing:

 

[tungularafishcamp]

Thanks Guys!, It seems a little bassakwards tho, giving more leeway when you have more doubt as to a situation, but hopefully it has the double effect of discouraging robbers for fear of being shot.

 

[blueriver]

I grew up in southern Oklahoma; lived in Ardmore, Healdton, Marlow, & Marietta before moving to Plano, TX. We never had a door key, never locked a door, and never took the key out of the ignition in the car. QUOTE]

Still the same here .. unless I here of some local things gone missing then I lock the gates and the barn ... that seems to only last a day cause I hate forgeting they are locked and have to remember where the key is.

The keys are always in the trucks, gator, 4 wheeler, tractors ... I don't even know if or where we have a house key.

 

[jonyyuma]

:laughing:From the little bit of time I have spent both places I think the differences run a little bit further than just thievery.

Excuse me ,Sir" Would you mind signing this release and leaving as soon as you finish my beer?" "I know I am At Fault for NOT locking my doors", the next sound you hear will be ME cocking my weapon...LOL.. Not.......Likely around here..

 

[tungularafishcamp]

Brandi, I grew up in southern Oklahoma; lived in Ardmore, Healdton, Marlow, & Marietta before moving to Plano, TX. We never had a door key, never locked a door, and never took the key out of the ignition in the car. I was 19 when I bought a little "house trailer" in Dallas and that was the first time I had a key to the door.

But then my parents moved to Anchorage in the Fall of 1965 and bought a little house there. And then one cold evening, a drunken Eskimo just walked in and sat down on the sofa in the living room without saying a word. Just came in to warm up apparently. And that was when they starting locking a door.:laughing:

:laughing: That reminds me of the first time I was in Akutan Bird. In the early 80's before there was a processer there in the village we were delivering to a floating processer out in the bay and a buddy and I decided to go check out the village. It was fairly early in the am and noone was moving around. As we walked into the village the dogs started after us and the pack got bigger and bigger and more agressive. Someones arctic entry door was open so we ran in there for protection with the dogs nippin at our heels. I shut the door on them as we got in and turned around and here were 3 villagers sitting at the table playing cards. One of them just pointed to a stack of baseball bats in the corner and they kept on playin. We both grabbed a bat and the dogs split as soon as we came out with the bats. Pretty funny sight watching everyone in the village walk around carrying a bat!:laughing:

 

[pacerron]

If they are in your house, (without your consent) they are committing burglary of a habitation, day or night.

Sorry to say, it often becomes a case of who gets the best lawyer after the incident.
The day or night thing has always seemed crazy. If the bad guys know the punishment is likely to be less for a daytime break in and most young working family homes are not occupied during the day, then if they have any logic they would conclude.....
Have any cases been referenced in Texas where posting of No Tresspassing signs around rural porperty make any difference, at all, in the judgements?
Up here hunters must have a written signed permission slip from the property owner to be on the property. But as everywhere, the laws are adhered to by the good guys.

 

[charlz]

Got this from a shooting buddy. Seems we have some USAF C-130 firebombers in the area.
hugs, Brandi

DOD aircraft join firefighting efforts in Texas, Northwest US

DOD aircraft join firefighting efforts in Texas, Northwest US

Yeah we just had an article about them standing up (6) C130's with MAFF's. Two are going to be stationed here, four going to TX and elsewhere. During bad fire years it can be a seemingly constant stream of red tailed C130's and other smaller planes going over. Having the National Interagency Fire Center (NIFC) here keeps us pretty busy with air tankers sometimes.

 

[charlz]

So I always leave my doors locked during the day, to keep out the riff raff if any try to just stop in for some cool air.
hugs, Brandi

Are you referring to criminals or relatives??

 

[jonyyuma]

Now Brandi will get to watch them and listen to the engines..over her house? I hope they have the new wings.....We have the Air show tomorrow here. Blue Angels and company for two days..

 

[Patriotic Stabilist]

When I have the front doors open I have the screen ones locked in front. I had plain screen doors put up, they are the new vinyl ones, but I think they are so pretty. Only because the cat can push the doors open and get out, not that she really wants to.

I do lock up at night but we don't take the keys out of the vehicles. We started locking up the tool trailer and hubbies shop, he just has to many items out there anymore. But we have an automatic gate to go through, of course, if they know how to unpin it, that is no obstacle.

But I go on vacation and leave the back door unlocked, my tenant next door gets all over me about it. Well if they want in, they will get in. But I am going to put up some kind of camera survelliance kind of system. Folds are getting pretty poor and with extended UE going to end soon I expect more just plain stealing of things to pawn.

In our 65 years we have had 2 thefts, one when we lived in Birnamwoods and someone stole a bunch of stuff out of hubbies company truck. The other about 5 years back when some less then great people lived next door. There 12 year old and a buddy stole a bunch of hubbies tools, we got some back and the insurance paid for the rest. We realized they stole gasoline too for a while. I did have the back windshield of a Camaro busted out in Birnamwoods too, some kids broke out a bunch of car windows one night.

 

[RobertN]

Any fire updates? Did the recent rain help?

 

[txdon]

No rain in central Texas. 9-16 update Bastrop Complex Fire.

BASTROP COUNTY COMPLEX, Bastrop County. 34,068 acres, 80 percent contained. The 719-acre Union Chapel Fire is now included in this complex and is being managed by the Southern Area Type I Incident Management Team. Crews and equipment continue to protect homes within the perimeter. There is no fire burning outside the main containment lines. An assessment team has confirmed 1,554 homes have been destroyed on the large Bastrop fire and the Union Chapel Fire. Two civilians were found dead as search crews went through the charred subdivisions.

· The latest drought monitor shows 95 percent of the state in extreme drought, with 81 percent in exceptional drought (the highest category). Seasonal outlooks continue to indicate drying throughout the fall, so the drought is expected to worsen.


http://tfsweb.tamu.edu/main/article.aspx?id=12888

 

[Bartcephus]

Burglary is entering with intent to commit a theft or any other felony in Texas. Criminal Trespass is Texas' equivilant of "Breaking and Entering" Burglary of a Habitation is a second degree felony (day or night) and has a punishment range of 2-20 years and a fine not to exceed $10,000. Burglary of a Building is a State Jail Felony in Texas which has a punishment range of not less than six months nor more than two years and a fine not to exceed $10,000.

Criminal Trespass is a misdemeanor and depending on the structure/property can range from a class C (fine only) to a class A Up to one year in the county jail and a fine not to exceed $4,000.00

Bart

 

[RobertN]

Don,
Is there any type of enforcement of clearances and weed abatement? I know Cal Fire really pushes the 10' clearance now. But, it is not enforced across the board.

I always wonder how many homes are lost due to lack of cleared area around houses.

It is sad to hear of folks losing their houses like that.

No rain in central Texas. 9-16 update Bastrop Complex Fire.

 

[blueriver]

Anybody get any rain ... We recorded 2.3 inches and supposed to get more yet this afternoon.

 

[bindian]

Brandi, I grew up in southern Oklahoma; lived in Ardmore, Healdton, Marlow, & Marietta before moving to Plano, TX. We never had a door key, never locked a door, and never took the key out of the ignition in the car. I was 19 when I bought a little "house trailer" in Dallas and that was the first time I had a key to the door.

But then my parents moved to Anchorage in the Fall of 1965 and bought a little house there. And then one cold evening, a drunken Eskimo just walked in and sat down on the sofa in the living room without saying a word. Just came in to warm up apparently. And that was when they starting locking a door.:laughing:

Bird,
Grandpa's house up in the Panhandle never had locks. I don't even remember if the screen door had a latch. But he was a mile from Higgins, a town of 600 folks. Everybody knew each other. I think a few years ago, my Uncle over 18 miles in OK, had to start locking his house in the town of Shattuck.
hugs, Brandi

 

[bindian]

Excuse me ,Sir" Would you mind signing this release and leaving as soon as you finish my beer?" "I know I am At Fault for NOT locking my doors", the next sound you hear will be ME cocking my weapon...LOL.. Not.......Likely around here..

If they take anything in your house or act in any threatening way or you fear a threat, during daylight, you can use deadly force. So you can shoot over a beer.

hugs, Brandi