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I would think that's a good possibility.
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I would think that's a good possibility.
Larry Caldwell
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So, have the TV weather forecasters stopped calling it a "beautiful day" yet? It always irritates me when they use hot weather as a synonym for good weather.
Larry, they said that the first day, that was about 25 ,100+ days ago:laughing:
Got the new fan motor on the A/C, they wanted $350 + parts to do it!!! I got it myself and did it for $148 + travel and time.
First fan motor to ever go out on me in 48 years. Counting various rentals and my own homes that had quite a few older units, this sucked since the motor was in a new unit I bought 27 months ago, go figure. 1 year warranty!
Anyway getting cold air now, this morning wasn't as bad as yesterdays (temp), thank goodness.
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Dennis, we bought a new Fox & Jacobs house in 1972 that had Carrier A/C. The manual said the motors needed no lubrication. Why the manuals said that I'll never know because both the blower motor for the air handler and the motor for the fan in the outside unit had a place to add oil. Anyway, the inside blower motor died after 3 years and I replaced it myself. We bought another new F&J home in 1977 with the same kind of A/C. On that one, I oiled both motors annually and after more than 11 years, when we sold the place, they were still working normally.
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Dennis, is it possible the squirrel cage has balance issues? I would think you had a faulty motor or some bad imbalance that destroyed the motor's bearings. I'd call 27 months on a fan motor "infant mortality" for sure. My AC on a previous house had an outside condenser fan go after about 18 years, but the inside evaporator fan was still working perfectly after 27 years use. It was a gas furnace also, so it ran during the winter. I never lubed the motor at all and it just kept running. It was a Lennox unit that had been installed new a couple of years before I bought the house in 1982.
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Dennis, I hope you didn't start a run of back luck for others.:laughing: Our youngest daughter and her husband got back Saturday evening from a 2 week vacation in Germany, Switzerland, and Italy and learned that one of their air-conditioners went out while they were gone. They have two central air units; one for downstairs and one for upstairs. Son-in-law thinks it's the blower motor for the upstairs unit, but has already called an HVAC company to come see what it is. The house is only about 4 years old, so the A/C can't be older than that.
And Jim, I don't think any of the A/C units have motors with a place to oil anymore like those Carriers did in the '70s.
And Jim, I don't think any of the A/C units have motors with a place to oil anymore like those Carriers did in the '70s.
My system is a "split", the inside "squirrel" type fan runs like a champ!, it was the outside condenser fan that went out. The outside motor is an A.O. Smith and also say's no need to oil? only holes in it are the drain holes on the bottom for moisture I guess.
Bird, I have never been accused of starting a "trend":laughing::laughing: Good thing they have 2 units, so they can at least have some comfort.
I tell you what, A/C work is expensive. I called the supply house where I bought the unit and they said it only had a 2 yr warranty, told her figures since it was 3 months out of warranty
All I bought and installed my self was the "a" frame, outside piece and the 2 new freon lines (inny and the outy), I used the existing wire, breakers and T stat wire. My cousin quoted me $3000 to do it, I did it in 2 hrs including drive time for $1400:thumbsup: (4 ton)
The guy that invented A/C, I put right up there with the guy that invented WD-40!!!
Bird, I have never been accused of starting a "trend":laughing::laughing: Good thing they have 2 units, so they can at least have some comfort.
I tell you what, A/C work is expensive. I called the supply house where I bought the unit and they said it only had a 2 yr warranty, told her figures since it was 3 months out of warranty
All I bought and installed my self was the "a" frame, outside piece and the 2 new freon lines (inny and the outy), I used the existing wire, breakers and T stat wire. My cousin quoted me $3000 to do it, I did it in 2 hrs including drive time for $1400:thumbsup: (4 ton)
The guy that invented A/C, I put right up there with the guy that invented WD-40!!!
Larry Caldwell
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The compressor fan went out on my AC a few years back, but I noticed and shut down the system right away. It was just the starting capacitor on the fan, a $15 part plus a $100 service call. If I had let it run, the motor would have fried.
If I had let it run, the motor would have fried.
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Yep, that's the reason, when I had a complete new system installed in May of last year, I paid a little extra for a 10 year warranty, and I'm paying $12 a month for them to also come check it out, service it, etc. twice a year, even if I don't have a problem.
NativeSon
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My A/C guy that I used at the restaurant for all the refrigeration and cooling said that most of the components for AC's were junk from China. He said he installed a lot of motors, compressors etc. that would end up only lasting 6 mo. to a year, however, most of the stuff he fixed for me stayed fixed and we had abused it all pretty much. Some times good A/C guys are hard to find.
Charlie
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At the time Bird, I didn't even think of an extended warranty and they didn't mention it. $12 a month not to bad. The quote I got yesterday was a $69 trip charge and $79 hr+ parts from one place, so you come out pretty good for $144 a year.
I noticed that too when looking for parts. Either China or Mexico.
300UGUY
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Electrolux makes a lot of refrigeration compressors. They used to be made in Michigan. They moved to Mexico several years ago. Nothing beats cheap labor.
Here is an interesting article from Fox News, Here is the link and a quote in case they move it.
Marathon Heat Wave Roasts Much of Country - FoxNews.com
Marathon Heat Wave Roasts Much of Country
Published July 11, 2011
| Associated Press
July 11: An unidentified pedestrian walks past a time and temperature sign in Lawrence, Kan.
DALLAS -- The temperature setting is stuck on broil across a swath of the Midwest and South, with Dallas and Oklahoma City sweltering through 100-degree heat for at least 10 days in a row.
Forecasters warned on Monday that the extreme heat could continue for most of the week and perhaps beyond. At the same time, many people won't be able to cool off by taking a dip: Swimming pools in some cities have closed because of budget cuts.
Heat advisories and excessive-heat warnings were issued Monday for 17 states in the Midwest and South. For Tuesday, the National Weather Service issued heat advisories for much of the East Coast, from Georgia to Connecticut, where temperatures are expected in the upper 90s but will feel as hot as 105 because of the humidity.
"It says a lot when you are dealing with such an expansive area of heat alerts," said National Weather Service spokesman Chris Vaccaro.
Hutchinson, Kan., had reached 103 by Monday afternoon after hitting a scorching 112 on Sunday. (Records haven't been kept there long enough to tell if it was a new high for the date.) The mercury hit 99 in Joplin, Mo., by the afternoon after topping out on Sunday at 106, breaking the record of 104 for the date, set in 1980.
Oklahoma City has hit 100 degrees or higher -- 110 on Saturday -- every day since June 29, including Monday, making it 13 in a row. The record there is 22 consecutive days of 100 degree-plus weather, set in 1936.
Dallas recorded its 10th-straight day of 100-degree weather Monday. The city hit 100 for nearly three straight weeks as recently as 2006, and the National Weather Service issued a heat advisory Monday afternoon for the Dallas-Fort Worth area for the first time since June 18. The advisory will remain in effect until Wednesday night.
In 1980, the Dallas-Fort Worth area endured 42 days in a row of 100-degree-and-over heat.
Triple-digit highs are expected through the weekend in Dallas, and there is little chance of rain to cool things down.
"It's breaking daily records, but when you're talking about a record string of days -- we're not there yet," Vaccaro said. "We're in the midst of a heat wave that's not over yet."
On Monday, 87-year-old R.F. Lanham was taking the heat in stride as he picked weeds in his shaded front yard in Dallas. "I've seen a lot of hot summers," he said.
As 40-year-old Sally Smith loaded two of her children into her minivan as she left a spin class at a Dallas YMCA, she said that even though she had lived in Texas for 18 years, the hot weather was hard to get used to.
"You feel like your skin is baking," the Michigan native said.
In Fort Worth, all of the city's pools are closed because of budget cuts. Through a partnership with the YMCA, Fort Worth residents can swim at four of its pools for two hours a day without a membership.
Authorities said a 51-year-old man suffered heat stroke and died Sunday because his mobile home in Granite City, Ill., had no working air conditioner. His body temperature was 104 when he arrived at the hospital.
In Tahlequah, Okla., 56-year-old David Vaughan, who works construction at water treatment plants, said he was using survival skills he learned while working in Kuwait.
"In Kuwait, we had a saying: Walk slow and drink a lot of water," he said.
In El Paso, Texas, 67-year-old Jesus Franco was the grateful recipient of a fan from the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services. Franco, who is blind, said that he had a small air conditioning unit installed in his home last week, but even then, "at night it gets so hot you can't sleep."
As the stream of air cooled his shirtless torso Monday, he said, "This is much nicer."
Felix Cabrera, an employee of the agency giving out the fans, said: "With so many people unemployed and the population getting older, we are getting more calls."
In New Orleans, the heat was, as usual, heavy and suffocating -- but just under 95 degrees, cool enough to allow the mule-drawn carriages to continue riding through the French Quarter. When the mercury hits 95, tourist guides are prohibited from working their mules.
Lorna Taylor, a guide and horse trainer, kept a close eye on her mule, Elvis. She threw snacks into his trough to force him to dunk his head in the water. But she wasn't worried.
"Mules are desert-dwellers," she said, sweat glistening on her brow. "So this is a walk in the park."
Marathon Heat Wave Roasts Much of Country - FoxNews.com
Marathon Heat Wave Roasts Much of Country
Published July 11, 2011
| Associated Press
July 11: An unidentified pedestrian walks past a time and temperature sign in Lawrence, Kan.
DALLAS -- The temperature setting is stuck on broil across a swath of the Midwest and South, with Dallas and Oklahoma City sweltering through 100-degree heat for at least 10 days in a row.
Forecasters warned on Monday that the extreme heat could continue for most of the week and perhaps beyond. At the same time, many people won't be able to cool off by taking a dip: Swimming pools in some cities have closed because of budget cuts.
Heat advisories and excessive-heat warnings were issued Monday for 17 states in the Midwest and South. For Tuesday, the National Weather Service issued heat advisories for much of the East Coast, from Georgia to Connecticut, where temperatures are expected in the upper 90s but will feel as hot as 105 because of the humidity.
"It says a lot when you are dealing with such an expansive area of heat alerts," said National Weather Service spokesman Chris Vaccaro.
Hutchinson, Kan., had reached 103 by Monday afternoon after hitting a scorching 112 on Sunday. (Records haven't been kept there long enough to tell if it was a new high for the date.) The mercury hit 99 in Joplin, Mo., by the afternoon after topping out on Sunday at 106, breaking the record of 104 for the date, set in 1980.
Oklahoma City has hit 100 degrees or higher -- 110 on Saturday -- every day since June 29, including Monday, making it 13 in a row. The record there is 22 consecutive days of 100 degree-plus weather, set in 1936.
Dallas recorded its 10th-straight day of 100-degree weather Monday. The city hit 100 for nearly three straight weeks as recently as 2006, and the National Weather Service issued a heat advisory Monday afternoon for the Dallas-Fort Worth area for the first time since June 18. The advisory will remain in effect until Wednesday night.
In 1980, the Dallas-Fort Worth area endured 42 days in a row of 100-degree-and-over heat.
Triple-digit highs are expected through the weekend in Dallas, and there is little chance of rain to cool things down.
"It's breaking daily records, but when you're talking about a record string of days -- we're not there yet," Vaccaro said. "We're in the midst of a heat wave that's not over yet."
On Monday, 87-year-old R.F. Lanham was taking the heat in stride as he picked weeds in his shaded front yard in Dallas. "I've seen a lot of hot summers," he said.
As 40-year-old Sally Smith loaded two of her children into her minivan as she left a spin class at a Dallas YMCA, she said that even though she had lived in Texas for 18 years, the hot weather was hard to get used to.
"You feel like your skin is baking," the Michigan native said.
In Fort Worth, all of the city's pools are closed because of budget cuts. Through a partnership with the YMCA, Fort Worth residents can swim at four of its pools for two hours a day without a membership.
Authorities said a 51-year-old man suffered heat stroke and died Sunday because his mobile home in Granite City, Ill., had no working air conditioner. His body temperature was 104 when he arrived at the hospital.
In Tahlequah, Okla., 56-year-old David Vaughan, who works construction at water treatment plants, said he was using survival skills he learned while working in Kuwait.
"In Kuwait, we had a saying: Walk slow and drink a lot of water," he said.
In El Paso, Texas, 67-year-old Jesus Franco was the grateful recipient of a fan from the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services. Franco, who is blind, said that he had a small air conditioning unit installed in his home last week, but even then, "at night it gets so hot you can't sleep."
As the stream of air cooled his shirtless torso Monday, he said, "This is much nicer."
Felix Cabrera, an employee of the agency giving out the fans, said: "With so many people unemployed and the population getting older, we are getting more calls."
In New Orleans, the heat was, as usual, heavy and suffocating -- but just under 95 degrees, cool enough to allow the mule-drawn carriages to continue riding through the French Quarter. When the mercury hits 95, tourist guides are prohibited from working their mules.
Lorna Taylor, a guide and horse trainer, kept a close eye on her mule, Elvis. She threw snacks into his trough to force him to dunk his head in the water. But she wasn't worried.
"Mules are desert-dwellers," she said, sweat glistening on her brow. "So this is a walk in the park."
Another factor I haven't seen mentioned yet regarding HVAC is the consequences of the clean air law What You Should Know about Refrigerants When Purchasing or Repairing a Residential A/C System or Heat Pump | Ozone Layer Protection - Regulatory Programs | US EPA
I ran into this a couple years ago when my main house 15 yr. old variable speed outside unit blew up. Replacing either an outside unit or the inside receiver coil separately, that are out of warranty, that uses R-22 adds the risk that if the other end goes bad in a few years it will be very hard to get a replacement that still uses R-22 resulting in another replacement of the first end as well as the tubing between both units and changing to the 410-A refrigerant.
I ran into this a couple years ago when my main house 15 yr. old variable speed outside unit blew up. Replacing either an outside unit or the inside receiver coil separately, that are out of warranty, that uses R-22 adds the risk that if the other end goes bad in a few years it will be very hard to get a replacement that still uses R-22 resulting in another replacement of the first end as well as the tubing between both units and changing to the 410-A refrigerant.
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That was one of the main reasons I had my entire system replaced last year when the inside unit developed a leak. The compressor and other outside components were still working OK.
So now I no longer have vehicles using R-12 or home HVAC using R-22.
The heat being experienced in a large part of the ZI is certainly taking its toll on people, equipment, and coming food prices. We had a brief respite last evening when a bunch of high wind and storms let loose leaving .73 inches of much needed rain in the past 24 hours but with wind damage to the garden and house roof as well. Back to the 90痴 feels like 104 with humidity today.
Even so, I am reminded of our troops in Afghanistan this summer and how they have to carry 80-100 pounds of body armor, weapons, ammo and all kinds of other gear in such heat. Cooling off | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Reading about them still having to buy many of their own weapons and gear since the commercial stuff is better than issue makes me boil.. Combat gear upgrade: New ruck, improved ACUs - Army News | News from Afghanistan & Iraq - Army Times
Finally some important protection on the way, maybe...
http://kitup.military.com/2011/04/army-tests-bombproof-boxers-in-afghanistan.html
May God bless each and every one of our troops in all branches of the service.
Ron
Even so, I am reminded of our troops in Afghanistan this summer and how they have to carry 80-100 pounds of body armor, weapons, ammo and all kinds of other gear in such heat. Cooling off | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Reading about them still having to buy many of their own weapons and gear since the commercial stuff is better than issue makes me boil.. Combat gear upgrade: New ruck, improved ACUs - Army News | News from Afghanistan & Iraq - Army Times
Finally some important protection on the way, maybe...
http://kitup.military.com/2011/04/army-tests-bombproof-boxers-in-afghanistan.html
May God bless each and every one of our troops in all branches of the service.
Ron
Just a couple of Statistics.
By the numbers
Driest period: February through June. The state average was 4.26 inches of rain. The second-driest was in 1917, with 6.45 inches.
Probable driest 12 months: If the state gets an average 2 inches or less this month, August through July will be the driest on record.
Hottest June: The average high of 85.2 broke the record of 84.9 set in 1953. (D/FW Airport's average was 86.8.)
Source: Texas A&M Department of Atmospheric Sciences
By the numbers
Driest period: February through June. The state average was 4.26 inches of rain. The second-driest was in 1917, with 6.45 inches.
Probable driest 12 months: If the state gets an average 2 inches or less this month, August through July will be the driest on record.
Hottest June: The average high of 85.2 broke the record of 84.9 set in 1953. (D/FW Airport's average was 86.8.)
Source: Texas A&M Department of Atmospheric Sciences
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My roofing crew showed up yesterday at 4 p.m. when the temperature was 100. They worked until 8 p.m. and then came back before 7 a.m. this morning. Earlier this year they were doing 2 houses a day; sometimes up to 120 squares of shingles, but the boss said in this heat they have to restrict them to 60 squares a day.
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In an effort to make friends and influence people, (NOT!) I'm posting pictures of my green grass courtesy of my awesome well's ability to pump plenty of water. I have a big yard and every other day, the impulse sprinklers run for around 6 hours to keep my grass green and control dust around my house. In the first picture, the grass is mostly bermuda I planted from seed. It's primarily in the direct sun without shade and does well with watering. The next two pictures are of the other side of my house with Saint Augustine grass. I had some flowers I transplanted back in 2001 from my other house and brought some St. Augustine roots in the transplant. Except for one section about 12' x 12' where I sodded, this entire yard has St. Augustine that spread ove the lawn. In one or two more years, I expect the St. Augustine to cover the entire area in the shade. In the last picture, my "prize winning" wellhouse is shown. It's the little building that looks like an outhouse.:laughing:
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Nice Jim!
I have been thinking about putting in a small sprinkler system. I don't have much "yard", so it wouldn't take much and would save the wasted mornings staring at a hose end sprinkler. I also have a mix of Seed planted Bermuda and a couple of areas of sodded St. Augustine. The St A. takes allot more water I have noticed.
Are you satisfied with the impulse heads? I was thinking the "other" type, since the farthest reach I would need is maybe 10' and probably only 4-5 zones.
I have been thinking about putting in a small sprinkler system. I don't have much "yard", so it wouldn't take much and would save the wasted mornings staring at a hose end sprinkler. I also have a mix of Seed planted Bermuda and a couple of areas of sodded St. Augustine. The St A. takes allot more water I have noticed.
Are you satisfied with the impulse heads? I was thinking the "other" type, since the farthest reach I would need is maybe 10' and probably only 4-5 zones.
