The Log house Project begins........

[MotorSeven]

I am talking about the 2x12's sitting on the steel beam. It is too late now to double them up. If they start to sag you may have to beef them up somehow.

On the header board... you connected it only on each end? Half the deck weight on those two connections may cause you some problems??? Did you double up the header board?

Great project, looking forward to seeing it finished.

Darin, I think your confused(a constant state for me:laughing Look at the pic's closely, the whole deck is 2x10x10's, 7 of them run perpendicular off the logs, 5 of those on joist hangers, and 2 screwed directly to the butt & pass end logs. No header and no Leger. All 7 2x10's sit on the I-beam with 2x10 bridge joists running parallel every 2'. The 2x10 cantilever out over the Ibeam about 2' and the 2-2x12's are the rim joists which run around the entire deck.

I know most people use 16" joist centers, I use 24" and then use 2x8's which add strength and are cheaper overall that using 2x6's. Personally I think that lots of us have been brainwashed into overbuilding by ridiculous codes. Overbuilding can be beneficial in areas such as a foundation, but it structure it can also waste copious amounts of money, time and materials with a zero benefit.

 

[MotorSeven]

Iplay, cool pic's and idea. I think the cost would be high as those old wheels seem to go for good money at the auctions. We do have some really good scrap yards within an hrs drive. One in particular has everything in groups/piles, so I think I will take a ride and wander around their yard for ideas.

 

[twinjayhawks]

Darin, I think your confused(a constant state for me:laughing Look at the pic's closely, the whole deck is 2x10x10's, 7 of them run perpendicular off the logs, 5 of those on joist hangers, and 2 screwed directly to the butt & pass end logs. No header and no Leger. All 7 2x10's sit on the I-beam with 2x10 bridge joists running parallel every 2'. The 2x10 cantilever out over the Ibeam about 2' and the 2-2x12's are the rim joists which run around the entire deck.

I know most people use 16" joist centers, I use 24" and then use 2x8's which add strength and are cheaper overall that using 2x6's. Personally I think that lots of us have been brainwashed into overbuilding by ridiculous codes. Overbuilding can be beneficial in areas such as a foundation, but it structure it can also waste copious amounts of money, time and materials with a zero benefit.

I am sure I am confused, whats new?:confused2:
I am not saying you did anything wrong... I have seen so many people try to build something on their own with absolutely no understanding of construction techniques. They build something that might hurt someone in an attempt to save a few bucks. I know this is not you... I was just curious how you built it.

I understand what you are saying about overbuilding. Some codes are complete overkill.

Keep up the good work.:thumbsup:

 

[MotorSeven]

I am sure I am confused, whats new?:confused2:
I am not saying you did anything wrong... I have seen so many people try to build something on their own with absolutely no understanding of construction techniques. They build something that might hurt someone in an attempt to save a few bucks. I know this is not you... I was just curious how you built it.

I understand what you are saying about overbuilding. Some codes are complete overkill.

Keep up the good work.:thumbsup:

I hear ya, I you were here looking at it you would say "AHH HA"...hopefully in a good way:laughing:

 

[Iplayfarmer]

Iplay, cool pic's and idea. I think the cost would be high as those old wheels seem to go for good money at the auctions. We do have some really good scrap yards within an hrs drive. One in particular has everything in groups/piles, so I think I will take a ride and wander around their yard for ideas.

Another idea is to do a hybrid of the wheel option and the cable/rod option. Add a wheel here and there in just the right place to lend a little artistic authenticity to the design and avoid the "too modern" look.

 

[twinjayhawks]

I hear ya, I you were here looking at it you would say "AHH HA"...hopefully in a good way:laughing:

Sorry, I always look at things and question why... that is the Architect in me. I just can't stop myself:mur:

I do have one question... I am sorry of you already discussed this, you said you were not going to install AC??? Can I ask why? What are you doing for insulation?

Sorry that was 2 questions.

 

[MotorSeven]

you said you were not going to install AC??? Can I ask why? What are you doing for insulation?

Sorry that was 2 questions.

We rarely run ours now in the Quonset. I am a ceiling fan guy...stay cool as long as the air is moving.... I will be installing 4 Hunter Originals...the cast iron ones. The floor plan is open/great room with a 21' cathedral ceiling. R10 insulation in the roof & most likely a solar whole house fan in one gable to pull out the hot air. The house is in the trees on the North slope of a ridge with large overhangs. We wanted to give it a shot with no A/C this summer and see how it goes. I do despise humidity, so that might be the biggest drawback on those dog days of summer after a rain.

Heat is wood and a Hearthstone H1(100,000 btu an hr) in the basement. I have not decided what to put upstairs int he great room...maybe a gas fireplace for "aaahmmmbeeeahhnce".

 

[MotorSeven]

Another idea is to do a hybrid of the wheel option and the cable/rod option. Add a wheel here and there in just the right place to lend a little artistic authenticity to the design and avoid the "too modern" look.

Yes, the more eclectic the better...well to a point eh?

 

[forgeblast]

Look at the jotul stoves if you want a direct vent gas. We have on that runs on lp, heats our house, works if the power goes out and looks like a wood stove. It also has a remote kit to keep a constant temp that runs on batterys. I love pushing the remote instead of pushing a wheelbarrow of wood up to the stairs and loading the wood racks once week.

 

[twinjayhawks]

We rarely run ours now in the Quonset. I am a ceiling fan guy...stay cool as long as the air is moving.... I will be installing 4 Hunter Originals...the cast iron ones. The floor plan is open/great room with a 21' cathedral ceiling. R10 insulation in the roof & most likely a solar whole house fan in one gable to pull out the hot air. The house is in the trees on the North slope of a ridge with large overhangs. We wanted to give it a shot with no A/C this summer and see how it goes. I do despise humidity, so that might be the biggest drawback on those dog days of summer after a rain.

Heat is wood and a Hearthstone H1(100,000 btu an hr) in the basement. I have not decided what to put upstairs int he great room...maybe a gas fireplace for "aaahmmmbeeeahhnce".

If you need to install a AC unit I would recommend these...
Ambiance Ductless Mini Split Heating and Air Conditioning

I have installed several of these. All you need is a 3" hole in the wall and about 1 hr to install. They are very efficient also.

Good luck.