They're at it again!

[Tractors4u]

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It says three point hitch and 3 speed PTO and 2 cylinder diesel engine. I didn't see 3 cylinder.

 

[Inspector507]

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Brent,
It said 3 cylinder at first, he has since revised it after a few e-mails to him.

 

[Soundguy]

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That clears it up.. now we know why he is selling it.. obviously hes an idiot... as he doesn't know the most basic info about his tractor. With that.. we can assume there has been -0- maintenance done on this tractor.. as anyone with half a brain can count the number of injector lines going to the engine from the pump...

Between the sheisters and the unenlightened.. it is a wonder any legitimate business goes on anymore...

Soundguy

 

[buppy69]

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Since I've never won anything in my life, I'm giving myself an award for having the most viewed post this year! This is great!

Eugene

 

[Soundguy]

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/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gifCongrats /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Probably if you would have posted as a ladies name you might have even got more /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

But was a respectable # in its own right.
later dude!

Soundguy

 

[pennwalk]

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Between the sheisters and the unenlightened.. it is a wonder any legitimate business goes on anymore... </font>

Lying is a time honored sales tool and E-bay sure has plenty of it. I wonder how many people buy stuff on E-bay only to discover it wasn't guite as advertized. I ran into it recently when a sales guy at the local New Holland / Kubota dealer told me that they were getting into E-bay. I had noticed an old JD 317 on the lot and found they had it up on E-bay only on ebay the details were left out. The ad said everything worked but the dealer couldn't get it to run for me and nothing was mentioned in the ad about the rear pto shaft which was so loose if it had started it would have probable shaken itself apart. I always thought they were a pretty solid dealer.

Chris

 

[cfoxmd]

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Maybe the dealer is repairing it! Unlikely-- guess he wants to unload the bad equipment over the internet and sell the better stuff locally for those who can actually see and test the equipment. That way he will keep a good reputation locally while the ebay user ID will get trashed. Once he has bad feedback he will start another ebay user ID. Bet the auction says that it is sold "as is" and that the buyer is welcome to inspect it prior to bidding. Ebay motor's policy is to only punish if misrepresentation is over half of the value of the vehicle. I don't know if that applies to other stuff on ebay.

Anyway, it is very interesting that something that hardly runs is being sold on ebay without any mention of problems. Makes you wonder about buying anything of significant cost/value on ebay--especially sight unseen from someone who can hardly be identified and who can get a new identity next week (or who may have several ID's at any time). If they are selling the same low cost item day in and day out, it is probably ok, but if they are selling high cost items, better look at the item before you buy.

 

[kayssupply]

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I have been looking at mini trackhoes on Ebay. I just saw a Cat 302.5 with every piece of the drive line " new" for $4500 buy it now. It must be a real " deal". The more I look at Ebay the less I trust it. Oh ! the best part, it doeasn't even give a location to see it.

 

[pugdaddy]

You guys are being too tough on Ebay

I have purchased almost a 1000 items on ebay with only a few not being as advertised and only one guy who wouldn't make things right. Most people who have bad experiences don't do the research before they bid and many don't read the add or the sellers feedback. I do almost all of my purchasing online now and ebay is great.

 

[Soundguy]

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I'm glad you had good luck. The few things I've purchased online via ebay or another auction house all were sour. Luckilly I was able to get out of the deals when faced with one seller outright lying about a product.

On the other hand.. I've had great luck buying from online 'friends'.. people I've never met face to face.. but that I 'know' from this and other subs. Many parts for my old tractors were aquired this way.. always as advertised or better....
Reminds me that there ARE good people out there.. ya just got to find them.


Soundguy

 

[DavesTractor]

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Reed,

About the mini-trackhoe for $4500...I've seen a couple crazy deals like that, and I think it is outright fraud.

Recently there was a new Polaris Quad, the biggest baddest one, with only 30 miles for $4000 buy it now with free shipping. It was a one day only auction and bidders had to be preapproved. I emailed the guy to get preapproved and he said the auction was already closed but he had several. He would ship them from Portugal and I would have them in 72 hours, freight free. I just had to send him the money order first. Yah, right. I looked some more at the pictures on this guys auction and they were copied off of a legitimate auction, right down to the trailer the quad was on and a piece of trash laying on the deck of the trailer.

The other scam has been when I recently was in the hunt for a 50-75kw generator. I would bid on a unit and shortly thereafter I would get an email from an eBayer, always from Eurpoe, saying he had 10 of these brand new for a rediculously cheap price, free freight and I'd have the unit within 24 hours! I just had to send a money order. I responded that I would take alll 10 COD and the guy went away. Since then I have seen several more of these. The COD always stops the correspondence. Be warned though, several of these guys were showing 100% feedback on eBay. I am curious about that part.

On a positive note, I bought a sold a fair bit on eBay with good results, but be careful.

 

[mountain_man]

Baloney! -Re: You guys are being too tough on Ebay

Caveat emptor Let the buyer beware!!!

There is so much "funny business" going on with ebay, you really need to do your homework (knowing what something is really worth) and be very cautious. I've complained and documented to ebay about the obvious shilling going on, only to deaf ears.

BTW I did buy my JD790 on ebay (out of state), but only put the deal together after having a local JD dealer check it out (at my expense). Prior to the JD790 purchase, I did drop several others due to obvious shilling and other "issues"...

 

[Gatorboy]

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Mountain Man,

Please don't change the SUBJECT of existing threads. Here I thought it was a NEW topic, only to find out otherwise.

Just to make it clear, eBay is just a mechanism to get BUYERS and SELLERS together. They do not validate the products being sold.

 

[Tractors4u]

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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( several of these guys were showing 100% feedback on eBay. I am curious about that part.
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They steal the legit user's ID. Have you ever gotten an e-mail that appears to be from e-bay asking you to update your account info? That is how they do it. The e-mails are not from e-bay and when you enter your user ID and password they have you. They then go to ebay and change your password and you e-mail address so that all e-mails go to them and they start selling under your good feedback rating.

 

[DavesTractor]

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Brent,

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( They steal the legit user's ID. )</font>

Thanks for clarification on the eBay feedback issue. I was wondering if they were imposters.

 

[jimstractors]

Re: Baloney! -Re: You guys are being too tough on Ebay

Like Dave, I have both bought and sold with good results on eBay. I did bid on a backhoe last week, and then eBay ended it early. I found out that this guy was not in Georgia, USA like he advertised, but in Portugal trying to pull a fast one. If you can pay through BidPay or PayPal, your chances are better that the seller is legitimate. I am always cautious of the "money order only" sellers.

 

[rdam]

Re: Baloney! -Re: You guys are being too tough on Ebay

I'll try to steer this back in the right direction. The first person to see a grey, diesel tractor advertised with a rebuilt "carburetor" wins.

 

[Gatorboy]

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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I'll try to steer this back in the right direction. )</font>

Another way to do this is to get the SUBJECT back to the original.

 

[YanmarFever]

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Sound guy
I too have been burned on ebay
but I also have done many great deals there too!
I bought a yanmar generator for a song, only to find out it was a chinese copy, I got my $$ back but I lost the shipping charges $300. ouch! /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
And they did kick the guy off ebay for doing it.
I still shop there with a watchful eye though /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Ernie

 

[mountain_man]

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Gatorboy - Here's eBay's stated policy about fraud:

"eBay pledges to work closely with our community of members to ensure a safe trading environment. We welcome reports of suspicious activity and will investigate and take appropriate action as outlined in our User Agreement."

Well from my experiences with eBay they don't seem to make an effort to "investigate and take appropriate action". Just my 2 cents.

BTW - I apologize if I inconvenienced you about changing the subject, however note pugdaddy previously changed the topic - Which got my attention! - I just added the baloney... which is probably what it is anyway /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif