Think I've got it narrowed down to MF 1652 or NH Boomer 3045 or Kubota 4740

[art]

I will definitely look into the B3030 Cab, but how much less is it than the other models I mentioned?

Oh and the FEL would likely get a lot of use building jumps for my snowmobile with the snow that needs to be moved from the collection areas on the driveway. So that would be a good reason to me for using the FEL for snow removal instead of a snowblower.

Was just pricing a B3030 the other day against the L3240. The L looked real good comparing the two with only a couple of hundred dollars apart! Options might change that but both were set up close to the same.

Snowmobile jumps made with a snow blower that also has the hydraulic deflector are harder and compress less then when using a loader. There are no tractor tracks to contend with while making the jumps and they do last well!

 

[IslandTractor]

Hard to imagine only a few hundred bucks difference between the B and L. I'd have guessed several thousand.

 

[Lt CHEG]

I guess I should have added that I will need some 3 point equipment for preparing the land for building on. I will be doing a lot of box blading to prepare the driveway, and then probably a little box blading as needed to keep it maintained for a few years before I have the driveway blacktopped. I will also need the FEL for preparing the driveway as well. I also plan on preparing a nice decent size garden and will plant rows of trees at the border of the property which will be used for privacy in lieu of a fence. So even if I were to rent the equipment I needed along with a diesel powered cab lawnmower the cost of the rental and the lawn mower would be pretty close. Plus I'd have use of the tractor for other projects as they arose without having to worry about renting equipment if I needed it.

Oh, another thing I should have added in the beginning... There is currently 6 or 7 acres of vacant land similar in makeup to my land right next to my land. If the owner ever sells that land I would like to buy it for myself to ensure future privacy. So even though there's probably at best a 50/50 chance that I'll double the size of my land, the chance that I'll be taking care of twice as much land in the future makes me want to err on the side of bigger than necessary as opposed to smaller.

 

[gazoo1]

i,m not sure if i can be of any help but i searched for a 40 - 45 hp tractor and came up with a john deere 4105 and bought it at 0 % financing for three yrs i payed 25.000 dielvered with a CX300 FEL BEST DEAL FOR THE MONEY IN BC.IT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT WERE YOU LIVE GOOD LUCK VERY EXCITING BEFORE YOU BUY ENJOY

 

[pitt_md]

I think I've narrowed down my search for a new CUT to either a Massey Ferguson 1652 or possibly 1648, a New Holland Boomer 3045 or Case/IH DX45 or possibly a Kubota 4740 or 4240. The NH and Case are basically the same tractor with similar financing but for whatever reason Case seems to be getting better financing right now strangely. All of these models will be cab models, as I am only looking at cab model tractors.

I will be using the tractor for taking care of roughly 7 acres. I will be finish mowing about 5 to 5.5 acres at least once a week and brush hogging a little less than an acre. I will also have a garden area. I also will be installing about an 800 foot driveway and using the FEL to help with snow removal once the driveway is in and the house is built. My plans are to run an 84" mowing deck and a 72" bush hog. I realize that all of these tractors are overkill for my needs, but I hate mowing the lawn and don't like getting dirty while doing it, so that necessitates a cab with air conditioning. I want to run an 84" deck as I plan on mowing at least once a week and want to be done in about 2.5 hours. This should be reasonable as this is basically an open field with trees only on the perimeter. Also I keep hearing that the AC robs a good chunk of power on cabbed units so I wanted to go a step up over the likely minimums necessary for running an 84" rear finish mower.

I've looked at all the big names and the tractors that I mentioned are the best overall values for me. I would rate the Kubota as the least likely tractor for me to purchase as it will likely be the most expensive and I would prefer a tractor slightly between the 4240 and the 4740, as I worry that the 35 PTO HP might be a little too small for the 4240, but I don't want to spend the extra $2K for the 4740. The JD 3720 and 4320 bore serious consideration too, but I think the 3720 is just too narrow for my likings even if for no reason other than cosmetics. Also JD dealers seem a bit too proud of their tractors and I haven't found any willing to go below about a 10% discount off MSRP.

So I'm looking at a MF 1652 cab, with FEL, HST, just the standard single rear remote and loaded R4 tires for about $37,000 out the door, delivered with 0% down and 0% APR for 72 months. I may see if I can get a similar discount on a 1648 as it is likely more what I need.

The Boomer 3045 will be a cab model with FEL, Hydro tranny and loaded R4's for about $32,500 delivered with 0% APR for 60 months. I've located a Case/IH DX 45 with 50 hours and a new tractor warranty for about the same money but would have to buy sight unseen from the dealer.

The Kubota 4740 cab equipped with quick attach FEL, 1 rear remote and a radio is about $36,500 delivered. A 4240 equipped the same is about $1,900 less.

So, is there anything I need to know about any of these tractors before making up my mind? Thanks in advance for the help.

OMG! I can not believe the prices you are quoting. I know my MX5000 is a basic unit with gears and no cab but I paid about 10K less for the tractor FEL and Brush hog just 3 years ago.

 

[nybirdman]

the cab alone is $6,000-$7,000

 

[crk133]

Anyone have anything else to add? What would you pick if you were in my shoes? Are my prices good, or should I be able to do better? Would the MF 1648 be a better fit for me or even a 1643? Is the Kubota 4240 good enough?

well early last spring i was in your shoes looking for the same thing. drove all the models you are talking about except the massey i drove the 15 series. initially i really wanted the nh then deere/massey and least kubota. i came to nearly all the same conclusions as you as well. chose the kubota then went up in size to the 5240 for good measure. massey won for looks. kubota for transmission. nh for color and cab room. deere for comfort...love the seat.

i found the nh trans to be less than ideal when compared to the others. deere's lack of a loader mounted control for the foraward hyd was not ideal nor was the aux remote access. massey seemed louder than the others and less refined. i finally decided the kubota trans was by far the most important factor for me although i REALLY am not fond of orange as a color on a tractor. they were all in the same price range +/- 2k. i am very happy with my purchase.

have you considered a large flail mower to take the place of the finish and brush mowers?

as for tires i have r4's but you may want to get some turfs. the turfs on this size of tractor are pretty stout and im am told by my dealer they get better snow tracttion than the r4's. my last tractor had turfs and did quite well in the snow

all but the deere can be ordered with a front mount blower IF you ever decide to add them although deere has come out with a fel mounted blower recently, looks impressive but its near 9k. if the trans is not a big issue for you id vote for the massey good looks, layout is nice in the new 16 series cab and you can always buy a seat cover 72 mo no interest is enticing.

the kubota could use a stronger a/c but it still keeps it very comfortable even in the 90degree+ days it just seems like is should be stronger and the 4wd lever is in a bad place push button would be nice!

massey and kubota loaders are comparable in capacity and not wanted for more hyd flow once so that is a non issue in the real world as far as my experience goes.



if you have any question plz pm me

 

[Lt CHEG]

well early last spring i was in your shoes looking for the same thing. drove all the models you are talking about except the massey i drove the 15 series. initially i really wanted the nh then deere/massey and least kubota. i came to nearly all the same conclusions as you as well. chose the kubota then went up in size to the 5240 for good measure. massey won for looks. kubota for transmission. nh for color and cab room. deere for comfort...love the seat.

i found the nh trans to be less than ideal when compared to the others. deere's lack of a loader mounted control for the foraward hyd was not ideal nor was the aux remote access. massey seemed louder than the others and less refined. i finally decided the kubota trans was by far the most important factor for me although i REALLY am not fond of orange as a color on a tractor. they were all in the same price range +/- 2k. i am very happy with my purchase.

have you considered a large flail mower to take the place of the finish and brush mowers?

as for tires i have r4's but you may want to get some turfs. the turfs on this size of tractor are pretty stout and im am told by my dealer they get better snow tracttion than the r4's. my last tractor had turfs and did quite well in the snow

all but the deere can be ordered with a front mount blower IF you ever decide to add them although deere has come out with a fel mounted blower recently, looks impressive but its near 9k. if the trans is not a big issue for you id vote for the massey good looks, layout is nice in the new 16 series cab and you can always buy a seat cover 72 mo no interest is enticing.

the kubota could use a stronger a/c but it still keeps it very comfortable even in the 90degree+ days it just seems like is should be stronger and the 4wd lever is in a bad place push button would be nice!

massey and kubota loaders are comparable in capacity and not wanted for more hyd flow once so that is a non issue in the real world as far as my experience goes.



if you have any question plz pm me

Thanks for sharing your experiences. Your insight and help is appreciated. I think my biggest holdup on the flail mower is that I worry about losing too much cut quality first off. Secondly I'm not even sure I'll buy a bush hog anymore. I planned on bush hogging the whole field for the first time and then just mowing it with the regular mower weekly or more after that. I only planned on using the bush hog in only a few areas, literally less than a quarter acre altogether. I'm thinking that I'll just take extra care to remove some of the crap vegetation on my first mowing of the property and mow all but the edges in a couple areas with the mowing deck and just weed wack the small problem areas. I'm thinking I'll try to just rent a bush hog for a day now to get the original cutting done and then just get right to the mowing. This would also probably save me a nice chunk of money.

 

[IslandTractor]

I think my biggest holdup on the flail mower is that I worry about losing too much cut quality first off.

Have you seen a flail cut? I would agree that you wouldn't want one for a carefully manicured suburban lawn (I am talking about "brush" rated flails, finish flails would do just fine for that). However, the cut is surprisingly good considering that you can also bush hog with the thing. If you are talking about bush hogging an area full of "crap vegetation" first, you really might not want to go right in with a new finish mower right afterwards. There will still be quite a bit of debris and regrowth of original vegetation for a year or two. A medium duty flail like the Caroni TM1900 excels in that situation. You don't need the bush hog and the cut with the flail is much closer to what you'd get with a finish mower. Go slow and it will be pretty much the same. The Caroni flail is the same cost as the Caroni finish mower (both excellent quality) and is less expensive than the Landpride, Woods or Rhino finish mowers.

 

[GPintheMitten]

I borrowed (you could rent) a brush hog to mow an overgrown pasture area the first time. I went over it twice the same day with the brush hog. After that I mowed it with a finish mower. You might dull the blades on a finish mower the first year, but it's cheaper than buying a brush hog. You should be ok if you remove the bigger pieces of debrish after the brush hogging.