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   / Thinkin about.. #61  
I have a Stilh 036, 20” bar and I know it’s older. i use no ethanol gas and it has never not fired for me. I don’t think you can beat them. Also have a 270 with 16” bar for lighter work
 
   / Thinkin about.. #62  
Best bang for the buck I have seen lately was a refurbished Husqvarna 455 Rancher, 20", for $337 shipped. Sold direct by Husqvarna on eBay. Out of stock now, though they have many others. The one I purchased and the one my BIL purchased were indistinguishable from new.
 
   / Thinkin about.. #63  
There is a youtube channel called "Project Farm" and the guy there does very analytical comparisons between all types of tools. When he did the chainsaws, it was clear that nothing touched the Stihl. I have been a long time user of Stihls and was looking to change over for two reasons. The first was that every time you open the gas cap, a little fuel spits out. (Note, the forest fire service stopped using them because of this.) Also, the entire handle is the main body of the saw. I have had problems where the handle gets damaged and it is a pain to replace it. After seeing the Project Farm review, and not finding another brand that make the handle separate, I'm sticking with Stihl.
I like Project Farm, but his gas powered chainsaw was NOT a good comparison of gas powered chainsaws. It was a comparison of home owner grade, gas powered chainsaws and the MS250 that he had in the video had more displacement that the Husqvarna. There was no way that Husquvarna was going to keep up despite the fact that the MS250 is a turd of a saw (IMHO).

In my opinion, most of the advice given so far misses the mark because you really aren't asking the right question. I run older Stihl saws (6 of them), but that's mainly so that I can interchange parts if/when needed and minimize the number of different spare components I keep on my shelf. Husquvarna, Dolmar/Makita/Jonsred, and Echo are all good saws. A new or lightly used pro saw from any of these companies is a good option. The OP said they were looking for something faster. Based on that information, I would recommend something noticeably bigger than an MS261 (even though it is a great saw and noticeably better than a 271). I would look at stepping up to something in the 60cc range or even 70cc range. Yes, keeping your chain sharp will make your saw cut faster, but YOUR sharpening skills are what they are, and YOU supply the chain regardless of which brand/model of saw you're running. Going this route normally means that you're going to have to open you're pocketbook and spend some serious money, but bigger equipment just costs more money.

Here's the part where I'm going to get flamed. If you don't want to spend $1K on an MS400, and realistically have a hard time spending even $700 to $800 on another firewood saw, you might want to consider a Farmertec clone. I'm all for buying American, but when all the companies are sourcing the bulk of their parts from China anyway, it becomes less important to me. I ordered a complete G660 power head directly from Farmertech last spring and had it at my door in 2 business days (US Inventory) for less than $325 (Current price appears to be $355). To be fair, I had done my homework on them before hand so I went ahead and spent another $70 on replacement parts/upgrades. Some from Hyway, and some from my local Stihl Dealership. In the end, I still had a 92cc saw with a high output oil pump, a dual port muffler, and none of the EPA emissions crap for under $400. I put 6 to 7 gallons of fuel through it this summer, and it's doing fine. A lot of that was running a 42" bar (3/8 full skip chain) on days that were 95 degrees or warmer so I'm satisfied with my purchase. Just know that IF you order directly from Farmertec, there are a handful of parts that you REALLY need to replace before you even fuel it up. For reference, a G361 (59cc Stihl 361 clone) is currently $260 with free shipping from US stock, and a G466 (76.5cc Stihl MS460 clone) is currently $330 with free shipping.

If you want a bigger saw, but don't want to repair it before you even run it you can buy one of the clones from some place like Farmertec Holzfforma US fast shipping and pay them to "fix" the saw before they ship it. If I were looking for another saw, this is probably the route I would go.
 
   / Thinkin about.. #64  
Makita stopped production of all gas powered products on March 31, 2021.
Huh, thats a shocker. They still advertise and sell them!
 
   / Thinkin about.. #65  
A new saw. Current saw is a Stihl MS271 Farm Boss. I like Echo for the 5 year warranty, which saw in their lineup would be a better (power, faster) saw than my Stihl? There's really nothing wrong with my Stihl, just looking for some more power but not looking for a huge saw. All I'm cutting is firewood. I take down occasional trees if they aren't huge and are in an open area where they won't get hung up. Thanks for the help!
Shindaiwa/Echo you won’t regret it. Super easy start. Best power/weight. Reasonable price. Check Jacks Small Engine
 
   / Thinkin about.. #66  
A new saw. Current saw is a Stihl MS271 Farm Boss. I like Echo for the 5 year warranty, which saw in their lineup would be a better (power, faster) saw than my Stihl? There's really nothing wrong with my Stihl, just looking for some more power but not looking for a huge saw. All I'm cutting is firewood. I take down occasional trees if they aren't huge and are in an open area where they won't get hung up. Thanks for the help!
My personal take...... DO NOT get the Echo or the Husk....stick with the Stihl.. hell even buy a used one and put a new block/top head in it for 20 bucks! For what you are doing...it's not the power....you need....just put a simple 16" bar on with a FULL chisel chain...call it a day. Hell, I one time got a new Polan for 99 bucks new as my beat on throw away one... LOL...I put a 16 bar got rid of the 20 and used semi chisel chain ...I got over 2 yrs till the auto oil gave out..then I used it for another year putting oil on myself and used it for roots outta the ground.. Still got it..used it to cut up a few junk pallets ....it's nice to have a beat on..throw away one for abuse...still puttin' oil on the bar myself...I normally don't like being part of the "throw away" community..but I'm more happy I've got my Stihl for the cutting down trees and cutting them up( as long as I not hit dirt with it, or else the P throw away comes out!)
 
   / Thinkin about.. #67  
There is a youtube channel called "Project Farm" and the guy there does very analytical comparisons between all types of tools. When he did the chainsaws, it was clear that nothing touched the Stihl. I have been a long time user of Stihls and was looking to change over for two reasons. The first was that every time you open the gas cap, a little fuel spits out. (Note, the forest fire service stopped using them because of this.)

They issued a warning but they still use Stihls. A few people got burned when gas geysered out of the tank as the cap was opened and exploded.

If you open the cap slowly to release the pressure its not a problem. Filling the tank when it's nearly empty helps and of course if the saw is not hot it's not an issue.


Firefighters tend to work in hotter environments than other saw users. I've seen sawyers on the line cutting burning trees and asking for water to spray on their bar to cool it. Any saw can geyser fuel, it's not just a Stihl problem. Since the USFS mostly or entirely uses Stihls, the incidents of fuel geysering were with Stihl saws. If they used Huskys it'd have been with Husky saws.


Also, the entire handle is the main body of the saw. I have had problems where the handle gets damaged and it is a pain to replace it. After seeing the Project Farm review, and not finding another brand that make the handle separate, I'm sticking with Stihl.
With pro saws, Stihl or not, the handle is a separate part from the casting that forms the crankcases and oil tank. It's a little easier to replace the handle on these but it's not that much easier.
 
   / Thinkin about.. #68  
There are 3 things to know about buying a chainsaw. Stihl, Stihl, and Stihl. They are the most expensive but you get what you pay for. Checkout reviews on YouTube from "Project Farm". He is very analytical and does a great job comparing products.
 
   / Thinkin about.. #69  
Huh, thats a shocker. They still advertise and sell them!
They are selling the remaining inventory that was manufactured before that date. The dealers were told about a year before that date. The initial announcement was in German.
 
   / Thinkin about.. #70  
There are 3 things to know about buying a chainsaw. Stihl, Stihl, and Stihl. They are the most expensive but you get what you pay for. Checkout reviews on YouTube from "Project Farm". He is very analytical and does a great job comparing products.
Everyone throw away their non Stihl saws. A Youtube celebrity said so. Man this site cracks me up.
 

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