Ridgewalker
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You guys have some really cool old school skills there. Great work and thanks for sharing!
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EddieWalker
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wroughtn_harv said:
Harvey,
You have been spending too much time with Don!!!!!
Eddie
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You guys are having way to much fun!
I'll suggest some wood sides for the wagon.......with a logo branded into the wood.
Don
I'll suggest some wood sides for the wagon.......with a logo branded into the wood.
Don
txdon
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These past eight days have flown by. Today was bye day. But before Harvey left he started to put the icing on the cake. Remember the leaves I traced out on metal and Harvey cut out and Bobby and I welded stems to and the Harvey forged curves and texture to last week, (breath), well this morning before Harvey packed up, he attached a section to the entrance fence to see how it would look, IT LOOKS SO GOOD!
below are a couple of pictures with the vines, leaves and a flower, I'll post again when we have the remaining 14 sections all up and painted.
The entrance turned out perfect. We only had a rough idea going into this project but the entrance now captures the wildscapes and wildlife and like nature you have to look to see it. The added touch of the grandparent's old metal just makes it that more personal, and now there is a story to be told about the gate.
Thank you so much Harvey, Glenda, Bobby and Mike!
below are a couple of pictures with the vines, leaves and a flower, I'll post again when we have the remaining 14 sections all up and painted.
The entrance turned out perfect. We only had a rough idea going into this project but the entrance now captures the wildscapes and wildlife and like nature you have to look to see it. The added touch of the grandparent's old metal just makes it that more personal, and now there is a story to be told about the gate.
Thank you so much Harvey, Glenda, Bobby and Mike!
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GaryBDavis
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TxDon,
Nice looking gate you got there.
You got any paint secrets you want to share? I've got a big corral project coming up next year that will be too big to sandblast, so I'm looking for ospho or something like that to use.
Nice looking gate you got there.
You got any paint secrets you want to share? I've got a big corral project coming up next year that will be too big to sandblast, so I'm looking for ospho or something like that to use.
txdon
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GaryBDavis, I got Harvey's secrets so don't tell anyone. The galvanized hog panels were primed with Kiltz exterior oil base paint and the rusty wagon wheels were primed with ospho. No special primer was put on the other metal. Then everything gets a coat of a 50/50 mixture of Rustoleum brown rusty metal primer and Rustoleum glossy leather brown paint.
After that I might put a Rustoleum hammered bronze or copper. I pre-painted the leaves Rustoleum hunter green and the flowers will be a two tone mustard yellow. That is about as far in the future as I can see now.
Northern tool has their metal bender on sale for $79 and I have ordered one to see if it preforms as good as Harvey's. I still have some metal vines to bend on the fence.
After that I might put a Rustoleum hammered bronze or copper. I pre-painted the leaves Rustoleum hunter green and the flowers will be a two tone mustard yellow. That is about as far in the future as I can see now.
Northern tool has their metal bender on sale for $79 and I have ordered one to see if it preforms as good as Harvey's. I still have some metal vines to bend on the fence.
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Hey Don,
Any idea how long the gate will keep looking good when treated like that? (looks great BTW)
Is it something that will have to be re-applied on an ongoing basis to prevent rusting?
Any idea how long the gate will keep looking good when treated like that? (looks great BTW)
Is it something that will have to be re-applied on an ongoing basis to prevent rusting?
txdon
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3RRL said:
No I do not. The bridge in the back still looks good after 4 years. You would have to ask wroughtn_harv, he has been using the mixture longer.
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wroughtn_harv
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Funny thing, rust. Some clients want it. They don't call it rust of course, it's patina, thank you.
As far as I'm concerned it's all about preparation. But even when you prepare the best you can it can still happen. Some people believe powdercoating is the cure. The problem powdercoating has it's applied with an electrostatic process. Electrostatic paint or powdercoating can have issues with sharp edges and inside corners, repelling instead of attracting.
I've found the fifty fifty, Rustoleum rusty metal primer/Leather brown combination a durable finish. The brown seems to give the UV protection and the primer provides the adhesion.
If Gary's rust problem is severe then I believe he will continue to have rust issues no matter what kind of process he chooses to use against it. I've had one client that went after his drill stem pipe fence (all I provided was the labor on that job, his pipe) with some very expensive stuff they use on off shore rigs. The last time we talked about it he told he had wished he had listened to me and paid the extra bucks for galvanized pipe in the first place because he still had rust issues everytime he turned around it seemed.
Oh, one other thing an old painter once told me about painting metal, "it don't rust under a run".
As far as I'm concerned it's all about preparation. But even when you prepare the best you can it can still happen. Some people believe powdercoating is the cure. The problem powdercoating has it's applied with an electrostatic process. Electrostatic paint or powdercoating can have issues with sharp edges and inside corners, repelling instead of attracting.
I've found the fifty fifty, Rustoleum rusty metal primer/Leather brown combination a durable finish. The brown seems to give the UV protection and the primer provides the adhesion.
If Gary's rust problem is severe then I believe he will continue to have rust issues no matter what kind of process he chooses to use against it. I've had one client that went after his drill stem pipe fence (all I provided was the labor on that job, his pipe) with some very expensive stuff they use on off shore rigs. The last time we talked about it he told he had wished he had listened to me and paid the extra bucks for galvanized pipe in the first place because he still had rust issues everytime he turned around it seemed.
Oh, one other thing an old painter once told me about painting metal, "it don't rust under a run".
EddieWalker
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I read that one of the founders of Rustoleum was curious why fishing boats don't have any rust on their decks. He learned that the fish oil prevents metal from rusting.
Hammerite is a paint that I used on the dump truck. The bed is pretty much covered in rust and pitted really bad. I washed off the dirt, let it dry, and painted on the Hammerite paint. It's designed to adhere to rust!!! As a bonus, it's very smooth and slipery, which means dirt will slide out of my dumptruck again.
There are two versions of Hammerite. One is smooth, the other has a hammered finish. It's miserable stuff to apply, but the results are amazing.
Eddie
Hammerite is a paint that I used on the dump truck. The bed is pretty much covered in rust and pitted really bad. I washed off the dirt, let it dry, and painted on the Hammerite paint. It's designed to adhere to rust!!! As a bonus, it's very smooth and slipery, which means dirt will slide out of my dumptruck again.
There are two versions of Hammerite. One is smooth, the other has a hammered finish. It's miserable stuff to apply, but the results are amazing.
Eddie