This Trailer is Overkill?

   / This Trailer is Overkill? #41  
What will they think of next? Look how you have to have TWO leaf springs for each spindle... i bet that keeps the wheel camber 'right where you need it' HA!

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I have been following this thread...what baffles me is how that trailer can cost 10 grand. If it were aluminum and had an engine to power itself I could understand 10 grand, but....

I have a 6X12 aluminum utility trailer with a 5 foot ramp gate and a 2500 pound capacity that cost me only $1400. I thought local government agencies were having budget problems, but apparently not the one who purchased this trailer.

Oh, BTW about safety, I drove commercial straight trucks for 31 years, the majority required a CDL, all of them had power lift gates, and in addition I drove fork lift trucks and used docks most of the time for deliveries, and although I had tens of thousands of opportunities to injure myself or someone else, it never happened.
 
   / This Trailer is Overkill? #42  
...what baffles me is how that trailer can cost 10 grand.

If their main customers are buying them with tax dollars...
 
   / This Trailer is Overkill? #43  
I wish we could all be so perfect AND LUCKY as to never get hurt because of a carelessness, equipment failure, other individuals' carelessness, etc.

Dave
 
   / This Trailer is Overkill? #45  
I wish we could all be so perfect AND LUCKY as to never get hurt because of a carelessness, equipment failure, other individuals' carelessness, etc.

Dave

I have a favorite saying:

"Accidents don't just happen, they are CAUSED"

Yeah, I wasn't so perfect, just careful and probably lucky. Back in mid-'87 I was driving an IHC S-1900 box truck downtown in northern Michigan, doing about 30 mph as the road started sloping uphill. A semi driver coming downhill locked up his brakes on the slick pavement and the trailer pushed the tractor across the centerline and we hit each other head on about 1/3 the width of our trucks. I was belted in securely and got out and walked away while the semi driver whose vehicle outweighed mine 4X wasn't belted in and hit the steering wheel and windshield. He also got fired for being so careless.
 
   / This Trailer is Overkill? #46  
My town purchased one of these trailers for 2 reasons. 1. They needed something to transport a small paving roller that would not climb a ramp. 2. We did have an experienced operator slide a zero turn mower off the side of a ramp trailer when caught in a severe thunderstorm. He was not injured but our insurance carrier suggested it. It has become the most popular trailer because it is so easy to load. We are moving our town hall and you'd be surprised how much was moved quickly.:thumbsup:
 
   / This Trailer is Overkill? #47  
I've seen them used for moving heavy machinery too (lathes, milling machines ect)......local places rent them out around here...
 
   / This Trailer is Overkill? #48  
Acme: the Miata is a whole lot more fun! Miata.net & flyingmiata.com have good info.
 
   / This Trailer is Overkill? #49  
it gets old quick. dealing with ramps. the harder it is, the less likely it will be done, and if done, done correctly. the easier it is to do something, the more likely when it is done, it will be done correctly.

for myself, there are times, that i wish i had a drop deck. due to needing to use hand cart, to move stuff on and off of trailer / around trailer, and to spot i want to place it.

trying to lift those heavier things on / off a trailer = bad backs, even if folks go through the basic. "how do you lift things"

there should automatically be a "city meeting" or "township meeting" or like. were budgets and buying things are talked about / come up. pretty boring. you seat there, while they go over basically stuff, and just doing paper work. that is pretty much what it is.

if the ramps are removable. i have been in situations were i needed my ramps, but ramps were not on trailer. so had to rely on a 2x8 or something. that would slide around and bend to almost breaking.

you also have to think about loading heavier equipment. if you do not put a jack stand or something under rear end of trailer. it could buckle and cause ramps to almost slide off, even if there is a grove for the removable ramps.

how many times have you seen the rear of the truck being lifted up off the ground trying to load something? and in those times how many times were you on a hill to make things even more risky?

not trying to justify, but regardless if it is saftey or not. some times having a extra feature like a drop deck, or a dump trailer, can make a night and day difference. cutting overall man hours by half if not more. ((kinda like DIY folks and there tools, they always seem to need to buy that one more tool for a project, due to how much better it does things and quicker it does things))

there are about 4 "machinery rental places" within 1 hour drive of me. these places are in buisness of renting out a wide range of tools to equipment. most of all this is "commercial" grade stuff which costs $$$$ over the cheap light weight stuff found in most local hardware stores a general DIY'er might buy. buying one of these commercial tools or equipment things can wipe out a budget in a heartbeat. having a trailer than can handle stuff from a machinery rental place. can cause a pretty good setup. of getting more machinery when needed as needed. vs trying to deal with repairs, and preventive maintenance on lower / less power machinery.

why need use of a tractor, to unload something off of a trailer. when you could drop the deck to the ground and use the hand cart?
 
   / This Trailer is Overkill? #50  
I saw a local ad for a new trailer that to me looked a lot like this one yesterday for $6,000.00. The ad described it as an automatic trailer and said it was the only one like it and there was some patent on it. I'm not sure if it's the same trailer or not, but it sure looked similar to the OP.

If a city uses the thing 200 times a year for 5 years, that's $6.00 per use.
 
   / This Trailer is Overkill? #51  
Oh, BTW about safety, I drove commercial straight trucks for 31 years, the majority required a CDL, all of them had power lift gates, and in addition I drove fork lift trucks and used docks most of the time for deliveries, and although I had tens of thousands of opportunities to injure myself or someone else, it never happened.

So you missed the opportunity to work for a city, get "injured" and stay on paid leave for years?
 
   / This Trailer is Overkill? #52  
This picture was NOT a government vehicle.:laughing:

Thats the set up I have. I bought the bigger trailer to accommodate the largest possible machine I have, and that I may buy in the future. I have done the same thing as in the picture, with my ATVs. I was going to get my TLB, and the kids wanted to go riding. Easier, and safer to load the quads on the trailer rather than the flat bed. When we were done, I loaded up the TLB, and put the ATVs on last. :D
 
   / This Trailer is Overkill? #53  
So you missed the opportunity to work for a city, get "injured" and stay on paid leave for years?

I do not know if you are kidding or not, but I was a State of Michigan (government) employee for that part of my career, and although I probably could have claimed an injury and collected workman's compensation and done nothing, as you infer..instead, I had a strong work ethic and always tried to give a day's work for my day's wages. While I did know a few people who filed WC claims, I had utter contempt for them when I knew their claims were bogus.

Secondly, I don't think it shows respect for others, to infer that a city employee, or a state employee, or any government employee, or perhaps someone who works in private industry, or for Ford, GM, etc. would get "injured" and stay on paid leave for years. Where someone works usually has little to do with their choice to go on disability leave, deserved or not.

That's how I feel and I wanted to pass it along.
 
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   / This Trailer is Overkill? #54  
My apologies to you. I'm not picking on you, but I am picking on the bogus group.

I was specifically thinking about a local county clerk who got in media trouble for ordering a new Tahoe through the city with running boards, custom wheels and oversize 20" tires, and then said the city just gave it to him. Then the reporter hauls out a copy of an email where he specifically asked for these items that added a few thousand to the cost of the vehicle. Then they asked him why he was reimbursed for gas costs 120 miles away in another city.

Locally, our city's gas costs went down substantially when the new mayor required all employees to buy their gas at a gas station where they personally sign for the gas. The prior system was a bulk pump where there was no accountability --any city employee apparently could pump gas for any reason. The city burned more gas in a town of say 7,000 than the sheriff's department burned in the whole county.

Then there is the recent USA report that federal employees are statistically more likely to die on the job than get fired.

So for every how ever many number of honest people, there are those looking to milk the system.

Government misconduct maybe gets more media attention because private employment is just that, private, but there are just so many examples of deliberate manipulation in the public sector.
 
   / This Trailer is Overkill? #55  
My apologies to you. I'm not picking on you, but I am picking on the bogus group.

I was specifically thinking about a local county clerk who got in media trouble for ordering a new Tahoe through the city with running boards, custom wheels and oversize 20" tires, and then said the city just gave it to him. Then the reporter hauls out a copy of an email where he specifically asked for these items that added a few thousand to the cost of the vehicle. Then they asked him why he was reimbursed for gas costs 120 miles away in another city.

Locally, our city's gas costs went down substantially when the new mayor required all employees to buy their gas at a gas station where they personally sign for the gas. The prior system was a bulk pump where there was no accountability --any city employee apparently could pump gas for any reason. The city burned more gas in a town of say 7,000 than the sheriff's department burned in the whole county.

Then there is the recent USA report that federal employees are statistically more likely to die on the job than get fired.

So for every how ever many number of honest people, there are those looking to milk the system.

Government misconduct maybe gets more media attention because private employment is just that, private, but there are just so many examples of deliberate manipulation in the public sector.

Thanks for the clarification...and I know that when public employees try to rip off the system paid for with tax money, they get a lot of bad press. After I retired, my supervisor (Facilities Management Director for Michigan DHS) left three years after I did. The guy who took his place had his picture featured in a mug shot in the local news early this year, he was jailed for being accused of stealing $5400 worth of carpet time and folding chairs, he authorized the purchases on paper then picked the items up from the vendor. What a moron. His salary was 85 grand a year and he got fired and will go to prison, of course now everybody who sees the story will think state employees are crooks.
 
   / This Trailer is Overkill? #56  
I was specifically thinking about a local county clerk who got in media trouble for ordering a new Tahoe through the city with running boards, custom wheels and oversize 20" tires, and then said the city just gave it to him. Then the reporter hauls out a copy of an email where he specifically asked for these items that added a few thousand to the cost of the vehicle. Then they asked him why he was reimbursed for gas costs 120 miles away in another city.

No, all that was necessary. He was helping the city have a better resale value on the Tahoe when they were done using it. :laughing: Saw that same story. I believe that employee's purchasing power has been removed, and I would guess he will soon be out of a job.
 
   / This Trailer is Overkill? #57  
No, all that was necessary. He was helping the city have a better resale value on the Tahoe when they were done using it. :laughing: Saw that same story. I believe that employee's purchasing power has been removed, and I would guess he will soon be out of a job.

May be off topic here, but IMO a clerk who orders running boards on a new truck or SUV deserves commendation. My Y2K GMC SUV came with running boards from the factory, despite being driven thru winters and on gravel roads, the OEM rocker panels still look like new, and just recently I was looking at a used 2003 GMC pickup, it had no running boards and the rocker panels were solid rust with a lot of quarter-size holes in them. The front tires on most trucks and SUV's kick up a lot of road debris that ruins the paint and gives rust a place to start. Just my opinion.
 

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