Thoughts on our house plans, please?

   / Thoughts on our house plans, please? #71  
I agree with the bathroom. If God forbid you should have to sell the house, having to walk through the study to get to the bathroom might be strange. If you relocate the bathroom but keep it on the first floor so your parents could still use it you get the best of both worlds.

Entrance area could be a bit bigger, an extra four feet wouldn't hurt but I don't know how much more that would cost.

Posting possible house plans on the net isn't a big deal. I wouldn't post vacation plans though. That's just me.

I hope you keep posting, not only will you learn, but so will others reading the thread.
 
   / Thoughts on our house plans, please? #72  
Or at least add another bathroom.

If you forsee the study doubling as a bedroom for the inlaws, then what happens when guests are over?? They have to go through the "beadroom" to use the facilities.

I know you havent got the garage and house tied together yet, but that is the perfect location. Something along the lines of a 10x14 or so area connecting the garage to the house. Have it be a hallway with a laundry room and bathroom off one side. That way, it dont take up any existing floor space that you have planed so far, AND you can still keep a bathroom in the study, AND still have a guest restroom. This is similar to how the house my parents are building is going to be set-up between the garage and house.

See attached crappy paint drawing to give you an idea...
 

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Or at least add another bathroom.

If you forsee the study doubling as a bedroom for the inlaws, then what happens when guests are over?? They have to go through the "beadroom" to use the facilities.

I know you havent got the garage and house tied together yet, but that is the perfect location. Something along the lines of a 10x14 or so area connecting the garage to the house. Have it be a hallway with a laundry room and bathroom off one side. That way, it dont take up any existing floor space that you have planed so far, AND you can still keep a bathroom in the study, AND still have a guest restroom. This is similar to how the house my parents are building is going to be set-up between the garage and house.

See attached crappy paint drawing to give you an idea...

You know, I wa tryin to keep it to two toilets on the first floor but that's not too bad of an idea.
 
   / Thoughts on our house plans, please? #74  
The ultimate decision is up to you. I am just tossing out ideas based on what "I" would want for my house, and based on what "I" would feel comfortable doing as a guest in ones house.

And going through a study (inlaws bedroom) or going through the master bedroom would just feel weird IMO.

And I dont know what your flooring plans are, but guessing that from the front door through the kitchen and out to the garage would NOT be carpet. So you can get to the restroom without tracking up the carpet.
 
   / Thoughts on our house plans, please? #75  
gocards1177 said:
Noted. I appreciate the words of caution. I don't know, maybe you're right. I'll think it over. Obed, what do you think? Your thread in my inspiration on sharing all of this.
Nathan,
You will obviously have to do what is within your comfort zone. Regarding my thread, I haven't been concerned that my thread would cause my "stuff' would get stolen. Sure, if someone who has read my thread tried hard enough, that person could figure out where I live and steal something. However, it is my impression that most people who would be willing to steal expensive stuff from your property are druggies looking for enough money for their next fix; they aren't that industrious. If someone is willing to put in the effort to find out where I live so they can rob me, they probably wouldn't be on drugs and wouldn't be interested in robbing me.

Someone is normally at our house so I'm haven't lost any sleep over this topic as a concern. In general, I tend to think locals or workers that have some knowledge of a person's property are the biggest risks regarding thievery.

Just as a precaution, I don't post on public forums my traveling plans. I will post that information, if pertinent, after I get back home. For example, we took an afternoon trip to see MotorSeven's log house so we could see his porch railing. We were considering doing something similar at our house so it would have been pertinent to post the visit online before going. However, for security purposes, I didn't post anything online until after we got home.

Obed
 
   / Thoughts on our house plans, please? #76  
I like the idea of a collaborative effort on Nathan's house plans. It actually sounds like fun. However, we need to agree to be gentle with our feedback so Nathan doesn't abandon his thread!

My wife worked in earnest on our house plans for 3 solid years. For 5 years before that we browsed through hundreds of house plans getting ideas. While our house plans aren't perfect, I think we ended up with a reasonably useful floor layout. After living in the house for 1 1/2 years, I still like our layout better than any others we have seen. And we never designed a house before, so with enough effort and feedback from others, I believe it is possible for an amateur to design a good house. My dad designed the house plans for the house I grew up in and his house turned out to be a great house layout without any awkward or weird features. It can be done. On the other hand, I have seen many houses that were obviously designed by the owner, ie. weird and tough to sell.

Nathan, the new plans are a huge improvement IMO. There is only one set of stairs. The kitchen is closer to the garage. The LR is bigger. The exterior walls are simpler. The use of space is much more efficient. As I started looking at it, your kitchen, DR, LR layout reminds me a little bit of the great room area in our house. I'm assuming the DR is actually an eat-in-kitchen and that there would be a counter or bar between the kitchen and the DR. You will have some challenges because of all the doorways in the kitchen; doorways eat up kitchen cabinet space. I agree that the study bath needs to be more easily accessible to guests and to your kids. Two doors in that bath in your original design made lots of sense based on the study/guest room function. You could let that bath have 2 doors in the new plan but that would add another door into your kitchen which could eat up counter space.

Obed
 
   / Thoughts on our house plans, please? #77  
A long time ago we had a builder going over plans with us. We were looking at a 2700 sq ' house with three and a half baths, lots of carpet, tons of woodwork, etc... really nice house. After we got prices for everything and were settled on a design, the old Amish builder sits us down and says by the way....

How many bathrooms in your current home?

One.

How long does it take to clean it every week?

Oh, about 20 minutes.

Plan on spending over an hour cleaning bathrooms each week now.
Also, how big is your current house?

Oh, about 720 sq '.

How long does it take to vacuum each week?

About 20 minutes.

Plan on vacuuming for over an hour each week.

Then he starts in about polishing woodwork, dusting high ceilings and light fixtures, changing lightbulbs in cathedral cielings, shoveling snow off porches and sidewalks, etc... and he pretty much proceeded to talk us out of building such a large house. He also said once your kids are grown and gone, you'll be living in an empty mosoleum.

It really made us think about things and we decided to downsize quite a bit. How many crappers do you really need after all? :laughing:
 
   / Thoughts on our house plans, please? #78  
One other thought, if the garage is attached, that is one less wall to pay for. If you are worried about noise from the garage entering the house, add extra insalation in that wall.
 
   / Thoughts on our house plans, please? #79  
Why 2 stairwells? One straight shot is easier to allow for furniture movement. One of the closets is 3 foot something, not much room to walk in once clothes are hung up. If it is just storage then okay. The other closet off the bedroom has a small door for such long closet. It will be hard to access the corner. It is fun to dream and plan. You think you have it all worked out and then once built you will be in the "I shoulda mode". Good luck.
 
   / Thoughts on our house plans, please? #80  
I apologize for coming across harsh. I rewrote my reply five times to tone it down, and think I did, but obviously not very much.

I'm not wanting to be cruel or mean in my comments. My goal is to bring to your attention things that I think might not work, and maybe steer you in a different direction. I understand the appeal of designing it yourself and the pride of accomplishment. It's a powerful feeling and when done right, there isn't anything better.

What I'm seeing in the plans are the very beginnings of learnign the process. I'm not very creative, so I rely on others to do that for me. I can see a plan in 3D and from every angle in my mind. When I look at the plans that you have done so far, I see problems that are so severe that I feel for you and what you will spend in building a house like that. My goal is to help, I'm just not as good as some of the others at doing so in a more friendly manner.

When I meet with clients, the hardest part of the job is figuring out what they want. They all want it better, newer and to have certain features, but they get lost in the details. I ask questions because the details are what I have to figure out to make it all work for them. Sometimes it takes several meetings and many weeks just to understand what they want.

To undertake the financial and emotional hardship of building your own house, you need to have a very solid idea of what you want. I tell my clients to not think of money at this stage, but to create a list of what their dream would be if money didn't matter.

With what I've read so far, you have some pretty solid ideas of what you want, but haven't been able to tie them all together in your designs. I think you still need to spend more time defining each room, what you want it to do, how big it needs to be and where it needs to be. Things like furniture, usage and views. Is there a great view? Do you like to watch tv? work in an office? entertain or cook? How many people will be there and how often will you have large groups of people there? Then you need to think of what you want it too look like. Do you have a style in mind? farmhouse? rancher? lodge? colonial? and does that matter to you?

Once you have everything you need written down and broken down by room and space, then you can start organizing where those rooms go. What view do you want from what room? Where will you eat and how will you get there?

Design one room at a time. Put furniture in it and make it exacly to your needs. It doesn't matter what room you do, maybe start with the room with the best view. Then do a seperate plan for each room. I do this on the same screen, I just have them all seperate from each other and zoom in on each room. I rarely finish one room before starting on the other, but then I go back and forth. I have learned that as I do this, door placement and location of those rooms will change from where I was thinking I wanted them, and how they would fit together, to where they end up.

I also look through eplans.com and print out several floor plans that I like. Might be for a bathroom, or a kitchen only. I keep those printouts next to my keyboard so I can reference how the pros did it.

You are not inventing or creating anything new. Every design has already been done. All you are doing it arranging it to fit your needs and living conditions.

Good luck,
Eddie
 

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