CMV
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Dealing with the coyotes in hopes to get deer & turkey back on my land. Used to be all over the place - groups of 30+ turkey almost daily, frequent visits by deer. They may have just found greener pastures and just coincidental, but I noticed fewer and fewer until almost none deer & turkey inside my fence while the coyote pair visits increased over past several years.
Anyway.....I just had a ~200yds path cleared thru a wooded area. This will be a long, walking shooting course lined with steel targets so will see some foot traffic. Will also occasionally run the SxS thru the area. Still have to finish leveling. The track loader that cleared it did great, but it's rough. After that I have to put down ground cover anyway so thinking it would be a great food plot and hunting area.
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But, I really have no idea what I'm doing. And don't really want a large plot that i have to spray roundup, disk, replant every year. So this is what i'm thinking....tell me where I'm off, what else I should do, or what is plain wrong please.
1. After leveling/smoothing the way I want it, broadcast spread 150 lb lime pellets, 50lb 24-0-11, and then 40 lbs 10-10-10. For a typical established lawn that's the right amount of 10-10-10 and 2x the amount of 24-0-11 you'd use. Right amount of lime to go up .5. This is poor red clay soil/fill dirt so just guessing at amount of fertilizer. Haven't done a "real" soil test, but have done the DIY ones with the colored water similar to they type you check a pool or hotub.
2. Broadcast mix of equal parts (by weight) crimson clover, NZ white clover, chickory, millet, & alfalfa. I'm thinking that will be somewhat low maintenance, will mostly come back for several years, and can withstand some foot traffic and occasional ATV or SxS.
3. End of summer, along 1 edge (left side in pic), roundup a 2' wide strip and then do the annual & fall plant stuff along that edge. Oats, purple top turnips, chufa, radish, peas. There are also some small, flat, cleared areas along this "path" on the sides not in my pic above (pic is most narrow spot). I could easily just do the annual/fall plant stuff there and leave the main path just the clover, alfalfa, chickory, etc.
For maintenance I'm thinking just bushhog when it gets about knee-high, re-do the annuals areas every year (no way around that I guess), and just lightly overseed the main area every spring with same clover, millet, etc and maybe change the mix depending on what grew well or didn't at all. i.e. chickory didn't do well, try rye grass in it's place or something like that.
So it's at least 10' wide, some spots a lot wider. 200 yds long and i I can go another 50 yds or more easily. At the end is a low spot where water collects when there's rain. Not a pond, but marshy area. Cat tails grow there. Also an intermittent but more dependable stream just across my fenceline (not on my property) so i'm thinking this would be a good spot to attract the deer & turkey. I *think* I'm picking out stuff to plant to attract both & will grow well in partial shade, water nearby, and secluded enough it's an attractive space.
Is it big enough to attract them even? in all would be like .18AC. I have another small plot going on the top part of my land. Real close to this but also small. 15' wide, 50 yds long. Garden is right next to it and when that's done, fall planting stuff will go there extending that plot to 40'+ wide. But that's out in the open and a very steep hill separates the areas. The right side of pic above - above that mess is open flat field.
Anyway.....I just had a ~200yds path cleared thru a wooded area. This will be a long, walking shooting course lined with steel targets so will see some foot traffic. Will also occasionally run the SxS thru the area. Still have to finish leveling. The track loader that cleared it did great, but it's rough. After that I have to put down ground cover anyway so thinking it would be a great food plot and hunting area.
View attachment 658537
But, I really have no idea what I'm doing. And don't really want a large plot that i have to spray roundup, disk, replant every year. So this is what i'm thinking....tell me where I'm off, what else I should do, or what is plain wrong please.
1. After leveling/smoothing the way I want it, broadcast spread 150 lb lime pellets, 50lb 24-0-11, and then 40 lbs 10-10-10. For a typical established lawn that's the right amount of 10-10-10 and 2x the amount of 24-0-11 you'd use. Right amount of lime to go up .5. This is poor red clay soil/fill dirt so just guessing at amount of fertilizer. Haven't done a "real" soil test, but have done the DIY ones with the colored water similar to they type you check a pool or hotub.
2. Broadcast mix of equal parts (by weight) crimson clover, NZ white clover, chickory, millet, & alfalfa. I'm thinking that will be somewhat low maintenance, will mostly come back for several years, and can withstand some foot traffic and occasional ATV or SxS.
3. End of summer, along 1 edge (left side in pic), roundup a 2' wide strip and then do the annual & fall plant stuff along that edge. Oats, purple top turnips, chufa, radish, peas. There are also some small, flat, cleared areas along this "path" on the sides not in my pic above (pic is most narrow spot). I could easily just do the annual/fall plant stuff there and leave the main path just the clover, alfalfa, chickory, etc.
For maintenance I'm thinking just bushhog when it gets about knee-high, re-do the annuals areas every year (no way around that I guess), and just lightly overseed the main area every spring with same clover, millet, etc and maybe change the mix depending on what grew well or didn't at all. i.e. chickory didn't do well, try rye grass in it's place or something like that.
So it's at least 10' wide, some spots a lot wider. 200 yds long and i I can go another 50 yds or more easily. At the end is a low spot where water collects when there's rain. Not a pond, but marshy area. Cat tails grow there. Also an intermittent but more dependable stream just across my fenceline (not on my property) so i'm thinking this would be a good spot to attract the deer & turkey. I *think* I'm picking out stuff to plant to attract both & will grow well in partial shade, water nearby, and secluded enough it's an attractive space.
Is it big enough to attract them even? in all would be like .18AC. I have another small plot going on the top part of my land. Real close to this but also small. 15' wide, 50 yds long. Garden is right next to it and when that's done, fall planting stuff will go there extending that plot to 40'+ wide. But that's out in the open and a very steep hill separates the areas. The right side of pic above - above that mess is open flat field.