Three way Ridgid Pipe threader?

   / Three way Ridgid Pipe threader? #11  
DO NOT BURY BLACK PIPE.

DAM this is SO WRONG! Man, You need to call a plumber dude...

I am done. YOUR GOING TO GET SOMEONE KILLED
 
   / Three way Ridgid Pipe threader? #12  
regardless of what one buries, have the pipe exit above ground before entering the building, that way if a leak would develops (the gas will many times follow the pipe) it will exit into the air, and not in your crawl space or basement,

the problem with propane is it can pool, it is heavier than air and in a basement or craw space it can build and build and when it goes it goes big,

on the buried line, you could talk to a contractor or gas company and they may sell you a line made up that is proper to bury, (many are using a poly type pipe system, HDPE Yellow Gas Pipe | JM Eagle for the pipe that is buried,
 
   / Three way Ridgid Pipe threader? #13  
I would look into CSST for the exterior. Easy to work with and will not rust. Also you may need a Dielectric Union to isolate the exterior pipe from the house in case of a lightning strike.
 
   / Three way Ridgid Pipe threader? #14  
We have the snowman tanks (2) i think they are 250gallons a piece, from there they have copper to regulator to copper (1/2) tubeing into the house. From there it hits the black pipe.
I was thinking for you I would put a tee in for a gas dryer, and a tee or two for the three brick burners to heat if needed in the workshop or just basement, and just make sure you have shut offs.
we have a 30k lp heater (jotul looks like a wood stove) for the entire upstairs of our house. I have 1/2 flex coming off the 3/4 to the lp stove, same with the kitchen stove. If you need any pics I will be glad to post them. Its not difficult, and for me it was 280.oo to have the lp stove hooked up, only because they found a leak in one of my shut off's so we had to cut it out and put in a coupler and a shut off it added over an hour to the job. They also put caps on the ends of every pipe. They were there over 3 1/2 hours.
 
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#15  
DO NOT BURY BLACK PIPE.

DAM this is SO WRONG! Man, You need to call a plumber dude...

I am done. YOUR GOING TO GET SOMEONE KILLED

Really? Too much coffee today Art? Ease up man your going to have a stroke. A simple recommendation on what pipe you would recommend for direct burial would have sufficed.

According to what I have been reading, there are coatings available. I will not use copper, I have seen it corrode and fail and I am looking at the poly coated pipe but it ain't cheap.

Crazyal I looked up CCST and it does not mention burial?
 
   / Three way Ridgid Pipe threader? #17  
seems like way overkill, couple years back, had some were i want to say 200 to 300 feet of line put in. from tank. 1 run to shed, 1 run to house. it was a plastic hose. and then a tracer wire put in the trench. very cheap compared to copper or black pipe. only cost really, was the pipe protector as the plastic hose came up out of the ground. but that was even fairly cheap.

once plastic hose was put in outside, and ran between tank and then regulator on house. i ran some black pipe inside, to create a "manifold" bunch of tees and valves. and then changed to "copper pipe" off the manifold with compression fittings. to run copper lines through out the house. ((i took option of paying a little bit more for more copper being ran through house, so i could have all my gas valves (stove, water heater, couple wallinging space heaters, dryer) all in one spot.)) even then i saved a lot compared to using black metal pipe.

only reason why i went with black pipe inside for manifold. was i could quickly build the manifold and have a smaller manifold with black pipe. and it was more strong, so when i do shut things off. i would have less chance of botching up a copper pipe. that and it was easy enough to goto menards, and just grab what i wanted and build the manifold right there in store and picking parts out of the bins. without having to thread any pipes.

i went with copper tubing between manifold and each individual thing. due to it was much easier to run. and i did not have to thread any pipe, it was more easier to work in tight spots. and with a basement with "drop down ceiling" errr basement has ceiling tile that hangs down a couple inches. i did not have to drill through anything, and could just use little plastic hangers. and little bit of were pipe went up through walls. was very short. and i did not have to put in any sort of wall stud blockers, due to gas lines did not run through the walls.

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as much as Artisan might seem to be yelling, i am with him.

if anything just buy the plastic hose and tracer wire from gas company. for between tank and house. for the outside. so you get correct type of plastic pipe. and then pipe protector, for ends of plastic pipe that are above ground.
 
   / Three way Ridgid Pipe threader? #18  
Around here compression fittings are NOT used on propane, only flaired are allowed. All interior pipe must be black iron up to a shut-off, then copper the last few feet to appliance
 
   / Three way Ridgid Pipe threader? #19  
I would have rented the power threader. When I built my house 15 years ago, I went to an auction and bought a bench threader. Best money I ever spent. $75 to be exact.
 
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#20  
Thanks for all the info and links.......good grief, it seems the local codes are all over the place. The more read the more confusing it gets. I have a local propane delivery guy who checked out my tank. I'm going to give him a call and see if I can talk them into running the line from the tank to the house.

Plumbing the 3/4 black pipe in the house is pretty straight forward and I may or may not need to thread anything, but I will have the ability if needed.

It's too bad you can't use PEX underground, what a easy simple system that actually works.
 
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