Tier 4

[grm61]

Yes, on a 50hp and under tractor, you will likely incur some cost and extra wiring due to Tier 4 emissions.

The OP, clearly, is new to tractors. not knowing the difference between a tier 3 and tier 4 cut, their is a little more to it than some extra cost and wiring.

This....

As I said, basically you get a cool stainless muffler and a little different user experience.

is typical sales babble, and is misleading to folks that don't know any better.

Over 50hp (and especially over 75hp), you'd hardly notice the difference if it wasent there.

Really?:laughing:

As Diller23 said, if you dont like it, dont buy it. Simple as that

I never said that I didn't like it...I said...

I do sincerely hope that the new machines are trouble free, but I was not willing to take the chance.

And no I didn't buy it.

 

[ShowroomShine]

I never said that I didn't like it...I said... And no I didn't buy it.

Ahh I see now, must have misunderstood you. Clearly I was too busy babbling to pay attention.

Go study up on some Tier 4 technology, its apparent you could use some clarification.

 

[grm61]

Ahh I see now, must have misunderstood you. Clearly I was too busy babbling to pay attention.

Go study up on some Tier 4 technology, its apparent you could use some clarification.

Have a nice day

 

[DarkBlack]

Like I said before some people are clearly trying to put lipstick on a pig.

 

[the old grind]

Like I said before some people are clearly trying to put lipstick on a pig.

.... and probably ride bicycles vs drive or operate anything. Imagine trying to put a 3ph or FEL on your Schwinn. :irked:

Anxiously awaiting the new hybrid-electric row crop line with solar cell cab/canopy options ...

 

[GManBart]

'Green' concepts will bear out over time but our contribution either way can't or won't be quantified to the nth degree in a mere lifetime. IMO pollution warrants our attention on par with temp rise, as we might suffocate ourselves long before we cook ourselves. If governments aren't doing the right things, at least they're getting our attention. :2cents:

Peak smog levels in LA are down 70% since 1980. Coincidence? There sure seems to be a relationship to rising emission standards there that are well within a lifetime.

 

[DarkBlack]

I think you're trying to change the original post's intent of question. Debating EPA regulation's effectiveness is a whole different subject.
This thread is about Tier3 vs Tier4 and for most people it's about paying more for a more complex machine that is used infrequently.

 

[Piston]

This thread :thumbsdown:

 

[GManBart]

I think you're trying to change the original post's intent of question. Debating EPA regulation's effectiveness is a whole different subject.
This thread is about Tier3 vs Tier4 and for most people it's about paying more for a more complex machine that is used infrequently.

I'm not the one who started in on the whole government/EPA theme.

Who said the machines are used infrequently? Some folks run them daily, or at least weekly. I'm just a weekend warrior, and I put over 200 hours on my LS in 16 months, and put many additional hours on my 8N, and Massey during the same timeframe.

I've also pointed out how the prices aren't necessarily any higher. The Kioti NX series costs a bit more than the DK it replaces, but added a host of features that at least cover the price increase. Is it a bit more complex? Sure. Is it such a huge change that they're suddenly going to start failing regularly...we'll see, but I doubt it since its pretty mature technology at this point.

Will other brands follow similar pricing changes? We'll have to see, but I suspect some of the legacy brands won't skip an opportunity to jack up their prices.

 

[GManBart]

This thread :thumbsdown:

Nobody forced you to read it.