Buying Advice Tiller options GC2400

[porky69]

I run a Farm King 60inch tiller behind my GC2400 and it works quite well, even in rock hard clay. With forward rotation it will tend to push the tractor a little if tilling conditions are not perfect, but nothing you can't deal with.

 

[ff1221]

I run a 60" Massey behind my 2305, works really well, bust up hard clay really good, great tiller in my opinion.

 

[King Kutter Rep]

King Kutter makes a Gear Drive Tiller specifically for sub-compact tractors. In fact, we used to make the one directly for Massey Ferguson, and their GC series of tractors.

Unlike most of the other ones I've seen in this thread, ours is made specifically for sub-compact tractors so the geometry of the hitch is correct, subsequently it goes in the ground better and lifts higher than if you were to put a standard size tiller on a sub-compact tractor. Just like our standard sized Gear Drive Rotary Tillers, our sub-compact tiller is also all Gear Drive.

You can see it here: King Kutter Incorporated

 

[Kal130]

King Kutter makes a Gear Drive Tiller specifically for sub-compact tractors. In fact, we used to make the one directly for Massey Ferguson, and their GC series of tractors.

Unlike most of the other ones I've seen in this thread, ours is made specifically for sub-compact tractors so the geometry of the hitch is correct, subsequently it goes in the ground better and lifts higher than if you were to put a standard size tiller on a sub-compact tractor. Just like our standard sized Gear Drive Rotary Tillers, our sub-compact tiller is also all Gear Drive.

You can see it here: King Kutter Incorporated

Ok, I'll bite. Here is your chance to sell me on King Kutter.

Initially after looking around I figured I would end up with a KK. After the post about being offset I noticed that the 4' KK was. This coupled with the possibility of wanting reverse rotation made me think I may have to go another way.

I like that the KK stuff is American made, that gives you a lot of leeway with me. I also noticed that Wacky had some trouble with a standard rotary cutter and found that KK had modified the hookup. He had to exchange it for an XB model to get it to fit his GC.

First question is, if these tractors have a cat 1 3ph, why won't cat 1 attachments fit right? Am I going to have this trouble with any implement I pick up?

Why must the XB model wreak of "not heavy duty"? I notice that the rotary cutter does not mention features like I-beam side rail, heavy duty stump jumper, slip clutch, chain guards, accommodates quick hitch, etc... I don't want to sacrifice quality for size, why should I have to?

What is so different about the SCUT that makes it require special implements?

I'm afraid all of this may do more to shy me away from a SCUT than anything else. I don't want to be limited in my implement selection. I want to be able to peruse auctions for the ability to expand my implement collection, not wonder if I am buying another heavy lawn ornament.

 

[King Kutter Rep]

Ok, I'll bite. Here is your chance to sell me on King Kutter.

Initially after looking around I figured I would end up with a KK. After the post about being offset I noticed that the 4' KK was. This coupled with the possibility of wanting reverse rotation made me think I may have to go another way.

I like that the KK stuff is American made, that gives you a lot of leeway with me. I also noticed that Wacky had some trouble with a standard rotary cutter and found that KK had modified the hookup. He had to exchange it for an XB model to get it to fit his GC.

First question is, if these tractors have a cat 1 3ph, why won't cat 1 attachments fit right? Am I going to have this trouble with any implement I pick up?

Why must the XB model wreak of "not heavy duty"? I notice that the rotary cutter does not mention features like I-beam side rail, heavy duty stump jumper, slip clutch, chain guards, accommodates quick hitch, etc... I don't want to sacrifice quality for size, why should I have to?

What is so different about the SCUT that makes it require special implements?

I'm afraid all of this may do more to shy me away from a SCUT than anything else. I don't want to be limited in my implement selection. I want to be able to peruse auctions for the ability to expand my implement collection, not wonder if I am buying another heavy lawn ornament.

Well, between the different models of sub-compact tractors, the hitches seem to differ. However the sub-compact tractors don't technically have Cat. I hitches. They have Cat. I pins, but the dimensions are narrower from left to right and top to bottom. Also, sub-compact tractors don't have the lift height to support many of the standard Cat. I implements.

The XB models are NOT heavy duty in the truest sense of the word. However they are plenty heavy enough for use on sub-compact tractors. Part of the reason they are built the way they are is b/c of the weight restrictions you must deal with when making a equipment for a smaller tractor such as a sub-compact machine. If it's to heavy, a sub-compact can't lift the implement safely.

The King Kutter sub-compact tiller or XB Gear Drive Rotary Tiller has all gear driven gearboxes, and six tines per flange. Lighter duty sub-compact tillers would have chain driven side gearboxes, and in many cases four tines per flange as opposed to six.

I hope that helps! Thanks for your interest in King Kutter equipment.

 

[Kal130]

Well, between the different models of sub-compact tractors, the hitches seem to differ. However the sub-compact tractors don't technically have Cat. I hitches. They have Cat. I pins, but the dimensions are narrower from left to right and top to bottom. Also, sub-compact tractors don't have the lift height to support many of the standard Cat. I implements.

The XB models are NOT heavy duty in the truest sense of the word. However they are plenty heavy enough for use on sub-compact tractors. Part of the reason they are built the way they are is b/c of the weight restrictions you must deal with when making a equipment for a smaller tractor such as a sub-compact machine. If it's to heavy, a sub-compact can't lift the implement safely.

The King Kutter sub-compact tiller or XB Gear Drive Rotary Tiller has all gear driven gearboxes, and six tines per flange. Lighter duty sub-compact tillers would have chain driven side gearboxes, and in many cases four tines per flange as opposed to six.

I hope that helps! Thanks for your interest in King Kutter equipment.

I was just talking to my dealer about it as well and he said they use bush hog brand. Checked them out and did notice they have a compact tractor model as well. Did notice it has 4 blades per flange, chain drive, and weighs about half what the KK does. No comparison there I would say.

Still scares me. The problem Wacky was having was related to his having a 2610 which has BH mounts that block the spread of the lower arms, I wonder If the non BH models will accept more implements... Curious
Guess I better get my engineer hat on and start taking measurements...

 

[Kal130]

So the dealer is offering me a Tonutti tiller for a good price. Don't know anything about them, is chain drive though. Anybody have experience with this tiller?

 

[sweettractors]

So the dealer is offering me a Tonutti tiller for a good price. Don't know anything about them, is chain drive though. Anybody have experience with this tiller?

I have heard of Tonutti, The make excellent hay equipment. They must have just jumped in the tiller market. Let us know what you find out about them? Ken sweet

 

[King Kutter Rep]

I have heard of Tonutti, The make excellent hay equipment. They must have just jumped in the tiller market. Let us know what you find out about them? Ken sweet

Tonutti has been building tillers for a very very long time. Tonutti has been in the US with tillers since the 70's. They're not new to the business. They're imported from Italy.

 

[Kal130]

Tonutti has been building tillers for a very very long time. Tonutti has been in the US with tillers since the 70's. They're not new to the business. They're imported from Italy.

So KKR, chain bad/gear good? Thoughts?